Pointy eggs and whales (Evolution)
Gatekeeper: I actually am more appalled with people that deny such a notion because of a fear of religion. Why would people suppress such a simple notion because they are afraid of theist?
Tony: They aren't afraid of theist, per se, but rather they are afraid of the answer to "what if the theist are right?" If theists are right, then we face accountability for our actions from a source with more authority than ourselves. If the theists are right, then there is some entity that not only has power, but authority. Authority to set and enforce rules, and subsequently reward or punish its subjects for keeping or breaking those rules. That is what they are afraid of.
This is where I have trouble with theistic views of morality. It smells of reward and punishment. Being good for the sake of being good without any outside judgement is more worthy than fear of judgement of how I've done. I know and follow what is required of me without any sense of coercion. In this way I'm still following Jewish thought in that there is no heaven or hell, just God's afterlife.
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dhw,
2018-08-27, 10:09
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Balance_Maintained,
2018-08-27, 17:50
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2018-08-27, 19:10
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2018-08-28, 01:08
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2018-08-28, 14:13
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dhw,
2018-08-29, 11:56
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2018-08-31, 13:37
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2018-08-31, 17:09
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dhw,
2018-09-01, 09:57
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2018-09-04, 01:36
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2018-09-15, 11:37
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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David Turell,
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GateKeeper,
2018-09-15, 00:56
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David Turell,
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GateKeeper,
2018-09-14, 21:06
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David Turell,
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GateKeeper,
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David Turell,
2018-09-13, 23:54
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GateKeeper,
2018-09-13, 21:04
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2018-09-13, 13:03
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2018-09-13, 10:41
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dhw,
2018-09-13, 11:43
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David Turell,
2018-09-13, 02:13
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David Turell,
2018-09-03, 14:44
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David Turell,
2018-09-02, 15:25
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Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-02, 14:11
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dhw,
2018-09-02, 09:09
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2018-09-01, 15:20
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2018-08-31, 17:09
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2018-08-30, 13:10
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2018-08-29, 13:18
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2018-08-27, 19:10
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