Pointy eggs and whales (Evolution)
GK: you are correct. The traits (description) of this god thing are in question.
I feel claims that offer an explanation, a mechanism, make predictions, and are repeatable are more valid than those that don't.
Talking about the start of the universe is pointless in settling "my god" and "my anti-god" debates. That conversation begins and ends with 'something started it or nothing started it." both have absolutely nothing supporting them. lol, "nothing" supporting them, too funny.
Nothing freaks me out more than "nothing" so lean toward 'something". Again, to your point, let's describe this 'something". We can only start by describing where we are in "space/time". I personally limit the discussion to 50 AU's.
How do we describe the system we are in to help us determine if spiritual people are more valid or less valid than those that make claims against them. I guess I am lucky, I have no stake in the answer. the universe is way cool the way it is, I don't care what some atheist or some theist try and push off as more 'real". Real is, what real is. statements of belief do not determine how the universe works for me.
the god-thing as some literalist teach is far less valid. Creating the earth in 7 days is embarrassing to me. If that god exists, I mean he wouldn't care, but it would have to be funny to him. I can see him saying "I wrote the rock record, its the only thing you have in my handwriting, and you ignored it!" but I digress.
Seven days is only Biblical. Those of us here accept billions of years since the theoretical Big Bang. You are the perfect passive agnostic, happy not knowing and happy not to know. Fine with me. This website is perfect for you.
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