Pointy eggs and whales (Evolution)
Tony:
That tells me all you want is description, not cause.
yes. we don't know how the universe started. Something or nothing are our choices. Its assumed, by most people that understand, everything is natural. 'supernatural, by definition, only means something natural that we don't know about yet.
It's like having a bunch of light bulbs, let's say 100*100. A bunch of them are turning on. I don't know how the bulbs got there, I only know that a bunch of them are going on. Now we have to describe what's going on.
well, we have a lot people that feel connected to the system around them. They are describing it as bigger and life. Ok, for me, I don't do GOD things and I don't do "anti-god" because of some personal emotional need. s I am free to just describe the system as it is.
Are these people are connected to something bigger and alive? well, I start at describing the system we are in.
let's start easy?
1) we know its bigger and more complex than us.
2) Is the system life, non-life? or in-between? a measurement and a calculation would help. Along with the understanding that claims that have an explanation, mechanism, make predictions, and are repeatable are more valid than those that don't.
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