DAVID: Cosmology: milky way size is enormous (Introduction)

by David Turell , Tuesday, July 09, 2019, 22:59 (1752 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

dhw: They offer no support to your theory that your God specially designed every individual life form, econiche, lifestyle and natural wonder, or that he did so in order that all the life forms could eat or not eat one another until 3.5 billion years had passed, or that his one and only purpose in designing life was to specially design H.sapiens. So I still don't know of any scientists, philosophers or theologians who support your theory.

DAVID: All of ID supports my theory. They think all was designed as I do.

dhw: A perfectly acceptable argument, but do any ID-ers support your theory that it was your God who designed everything? Apparently they don’t say so, and I’d be interested to know if they reject Shapiro’s theory of natural genetic engineering, which also entails design. And do they say that in the context of life, your God designed every single life form so that organisms should eat or not eat one another, the sole purpose of this being that he should spend 3.5 billion years not designing the only thing he wanted to design, which was H. sapiens? If not, please don’t tell us that ID supports your theory.

David: But it does, as it supports design by all God does, even though His name is not allowed to be mentioned. I remind, my theory is an extrapolation of their theory.

Tony: From a biblical perspective, many of the questions being asked are immaterial. It never claimed all things were created directly by God. Actually, the only thing mentioned being created directly by God was Christ, everything else was said to have been created at his direction using power granted by him. Additionally, why does the concept of humans, in our current form, have to have been fully conceptualized from the very beginning. Creating a self-aware caretaker may have been, but there is no need for that to have been the ultimate plan fully conceived right from the start.

In the OT Genesis says He created everything directly in six days, now as accepted by most scholars 'Yom' is to be literally translated to six eons.