DAVID: Cosmology: milky way size is enormous (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, June 23, 2019, 14:15 (1768 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: We have simply repeated our same arguments. You cannot deny my simple point: God chose to evolve us. Humans were His endpoint. You argue He shouldn't have.

dhw: We will go on repeating the same arguments so long as you continue to gloss over the separate conflicting hypotheses that you believe in. According to your concept of evolution, your God chose to specially design every single life form that ever existed, although he only wanted to specially design humans. I argue that this makes no sense. There is no should or shouldn’t. See “unanswered questions”.

As usual you are separating the process of evolution into separate parts. The concept of evolution that must folks recognize, is that life started with single cells and seamlessly developed into a bush of life, with humans at the top of the bush as evidenced by their complexity. I see God as the guiding engineer of the process, totally in charge. I see you viewing God as performing illogically.

DAVID: Our planet has many fine-tuned and undoubtedly unique features. I suspect we are alone.

dhw: Which again raises the question of why your God, whose sole purpose apparently was to specially design humans, specially designed the billions of galaxies that are incapable of sustaining life.

DAVID: The response is obvious: we have a fine-tuned universe.

dhw: Do we? I thought we had a fine-tuned galaxy. In what way are/were the billions of non-life-bearing galaxies extant and extinct fine-tuned?

DAVID: You are confused. it has always been seen as a fine-tuned universe.

dhw: Then perhaps it’s time to look at it again. If you can’t explain how billions of non-life-bearing galaxies extant and extinct are “fine-tuned”, then simply admit that as far as we know, only our own galaxy is fine-tuned for life.

Wrong again. The entire universe is viewed as fine tuned for life everywhere. All those other galaxies are just part of the whole universe and some folks consider they might bear life. Your view is too narrow.