Cosmology: escaping the end of the universe (Introduction)
DAVID: It is April's fools day, I think:-http://arxiv.org/pdf/1503.08130v1.pdf-Thank you so much for this invaluable reference. I was in despair after Professor Miyagawa's MIT had rejected my application for a research grant (see "Origin of Language", 5 April at 14.15), but hope springs eternal... I shall now apply to the Harish-Chandra Research Institute. And I have a new theory to develop: our universe is made of a renewable substance called zogipantopyrussurypotnapigoz, which means it can NEVER END. They can't possibly turn me down, can they?
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2012-07-20, 00:24
- Cosmology: Oldest spiral galaxy - David Turell, 2012-07-20, 00:46
- Cosmology: Gravity properties - David Turell, 2013-07-25, 21:48
- Cosmology: gravitational waves - David Turell, 2013-08-03, 16:02
- Cosmology: Black hole confusion -
David Turell,
2013-08-13, 15:46
- Cosmology: Black hole confusion -
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2013-08-14, 12:25
- Cosmology: Black hole confusion -
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2013-08-14, 14:51
- Cosmology: Black hole confusion - David Turell, 2014-02-04, 15:32
- Cosmology: Black hole confusion -
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2013-08-14, 14:51
- Cosmology: Black hole confusion -
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2013-08-14, 12:25
- Cosmology: Dark matter is gravitinos? -
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2013-01-23, 16:14
- Cosmology: supersymmetry - David Turell, 2013-11-11, 20:03
- Cosmology: Andromeda -
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2013-08-19, 18:12
- Cosmology: weighing the Milky Way -
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2013-08-24, 00:24
- Cosmology: neutrinos to the rescue -
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2014-02-11, 00:37
- Cosmology: finding the missing mass -
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2014-02-19, 18:41
- Cosmology: finding the missing mass -
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2014-02-20, 02:53
- Cosmology: finding the missing mass -
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2014-02-20, 05:53
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2014-02-20, 08:23
- Cosmology: finding the missing mass - David Turell, 2014-02-20, 14:56
- Cosmology: finding the missing mass -
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2014-02-20, 08:23
- Cosmology: finding the missing mass -
David Turell,
2014-02-20, 15:26
- Cosmology: milky way magnetic field -
David Turell,
2014-05-11, 15:21
- Cosmology: deeper study of the CMB -
David Turell,
2014-05-11, 15:27
- Cosmology: neutrino mass unknown -
David Turell,
2014-05-13, 20:23
- Cosmology: a universe from nothing? -
David Turell,
2014-05-23, 18:13
- Cosmology: time begins -
David Turell,
2014-05-23, 18:42
- Cosmology: time begins -
dhw,
2014-05-25, 14:31
- Cosmology: time begins -
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2014-05-25, 18:43
- Cosmology: static? - David Turell, 2014-05-26, 15:32
- Cosmology: time begins -
dhw,
2014-05-26, 20:40
- Cosmology: time begins -
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2014-05-27, 02:20
- Cosmology: time begins -
dhw,
2014-05-27, 18:54
- Cosmology: time begins -
David Turell,
2014-05-27, 22:06
- Cosmology: expansion speeding up -
David Turell,
2014-06-06, 19:57
- Cosmology: confusion -
David Turell,
2014-06-07, 16:25
- Cosmology: confusion -
dhw,
2014-06-08, 14:55
- Cosmology: confusion -
David Turell,
2014-06-08, 16:03
- Cosmology: water, water everywhere -
David Turell,
2015-03-18, 23:57
- Cosmology: oddball solar system -
David Turell,
2015-03-24, 14:19
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
David Turell,
2015-03-29, 21:54
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-29, 22:19
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-29, 23:56
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 01:20
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 02:18
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 02:55
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 05:05
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 13:52
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 14:25
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 20:42
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 23:02
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-31, 00:17
- Cosmology: star factories -
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2015-04-04, 14:42
- Cosmology: our unususal solar system -
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2015-04-04, 20:41
- Cosmology: escaping the end of the universe -
David Turell,
2015-04-05, 17:59
- Cosmology: escaping the end of the universe -
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2015-04-06, 12:34
- Cosmology: escaping the end of the universe -
David Turell,
2015-04-06, 14:44
- Cosmology: James Webb telescope coming - David Turell, 2015-10-03, 14:05
- Cosmology: escaping the end of the universe -
David Turell,
2015-04-06, 14:44
- Cosmology: escaping the end of the universe -
dhw,
2015-04-06, 12:34
- Cosmology: escaping the end of the universe -
David Turell,
2015-04-05, 17:59
- Cosmology: our unususal solar system -
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2015-04-04, 20:41
- Cosmology: star factories -
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2015-04-04, 14:42
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-31, 00:17
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 23:02
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 20:42
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 14:25
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 13:52
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 05:05
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 02:55
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 02:18
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
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2015-03-30, 01:20
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
David Turell,
2015-03-29, 23:56
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
Balance_Maintained,
2015-03-29, 22:19
- Cosmology: quantum space time not Einsteinian -
David Turell,
2015-03-29, 21:54
- Cosmology: oddball solar system -
David Turell,
2015-03-24, 14:19
- Cosmology: water, water everywhere -
David Turell,
2015-03-18, 23:57
- Cosmology: confusion -
David Turell,
2014-06-08, 16:03
- Cosmology: confusion -
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2014-06-08, 14:55
- Cosmology: confusion -
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2014-06-07, 16:25
- Cosmology: expansion speeding up -
David Turell,
2014-06-06, 19:57
- Cosmology: time begins -
David Turell,
2014-05-27, 22:06
- Cosmology: time begins -
dhw,
2014-05-27, 18:54
- Cosmology: time begins -
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2014-05-27, 02:20
- Cosmology: time begins -
David Turell,
2014-05-25, 18:43
- Cosmology: time begins -
dhw,
2014-05-25, 14:31
- Cosmology: time begins -
David Turell,
2014-05-23, 18:42
- Cosmology: a universe from nothing? -
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2014-05-23, 18:13
- Cosmology: neutrino mass unknown -
David Turell,
2014-05-13, 20:23
- Cosmology: milky way size grows -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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2019-07-09, 22:59
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2019-07-12, 15:47
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dhw,
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dhw,
2019-07-02, 11:45
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- DAVID: Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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2019-06-27, 13:16
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2019-06-25, 09:29
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2019-06-13, 10:08
- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
David Turell,
2019-06-12, 15:15
- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
dhw,
2019-06-12, 09:03
- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: Milky Way is ancient, with a new history -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
dhw,
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
dhw,
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
David Turell,
2019-06-03, 14:07
- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
dhw,
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
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- Cosmology: milky way size is enormous -
dhw,
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2019-06-01, 14:43
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