Evolution and humans: big brain birth canal (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Saturday, November 03, 2018, 18:35 (405 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Cells cannot plan for a future they cannot visualize.

dhw: And I keep repeating that I do not regard evolution as the result of planning but of intelligent RESPONSES to changing conditions. Why is this illogical?

DAVID: I would point out again, there is no evidence cells can plan for the future.

dhw: You obviously did not read the comment you quoted. In my hypothesis THEY DO NOT PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. THEY RESPOND TO CHANGING CONDITIONS.

DAVID: I've not ignored what you constantly ignore. The changes of form in the fossil gaps of evolution are huge. Even Darwin recognized his theory depended upon finding the little steps. They don't exist. Obviously the 'changing conditions' require huge changes, therefore design.

dhw:You tell me cells cannot plan for the future, and I tell you that my hypothesis is that they respond to the present, so you change the subject to gaps! And yes, there are huge gaps, and yes there is no evidence that cells/cell communities can use their possibly God-given intelligence to design the innovations that require huge changes, and that is why my hypothesis is a hypothesis. There is no evidence for a divine 3.8-billion-year old computer programme for every undabbled innovation, lifestyle and natural wonder in the history of life, and that is why your hypothesis is a hypothesis.

The rest of your post repeats your belief that only “a mind”, i.e. your God can do all the designing. Let me know when you have found the 3.8-billion-year computer programme for all the above (or when you find a reliable witness to divine dabbling), and I’ll let you know if I hear of any evidence that cells/cell communities are capable of greater feats than those that ”my” experts already regard as evidence of autonomous intelligence.

Of course the subject is gaps. No tiny pelvic changes are seen in the fossil record, which it what one would expect from immediate adaptation in a 'present' time of local changes. Of course a 'mind' is required. That is all logic dictates. As for cells, all that has been demonstrated is that they can make logical responses to immediate local stimuli, no evidence of future design capacity. There is n o proof, only logic based on our experiences.


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