Evolution and humans (Evolution)

by Balance_Maintained @, U.S.A., Saturday, May 23, 2015, 17:58 (1639 days ago) @ David Turell


Tony:
By your reckoning, we should all be Mongolian, since they must have been more advanced than the Romans they conquored, right?


David: But you are admonishing me with all groups that are Homo sapiens. All of us won; it is the other Homo groups that were not as competent. Somehow or other we were better. Or do you think we were luckier?

As for Eugenics, the current evidence points to taking Darwin's thinking too far, with horrible results.

65 years ago we thought the "races" were genetically different, perhaps even different species with varying degrees of fitness (until the 1950's). Now we know that there are more differences between members of the same race than there are between the races. Today, we think that Neandertals and other hominids were different species, even though the are drastically closer to us genetically then our supposed closest surviving kin(chimps). How long do you think it will be until we discover we've been wrong about that, too? And to answer the question directly, I do not think that we were better OR luckier. I don't even think we are fundamentally different in kind, anymore than I think asians or africans are fundamentally different than caucasions.

As for eugenics, I concur. But we failed to learn from our earlier mistake. We failed to see what such thinking leads too in the hands of the power hungry. We based those classifications on remarkably incomplete data because it fit a then-popular ideology. (One which was political in nature more than scientific) Today, I think we are in the same trap. Making decisions on remarkably small amounts of data which we barely understand in order to fit two popular ideologies; one scientific and both political. Scientifically, there is the dedication to darwinism, a religion that tries to kill gods in favor of random chance.

Politically, there is an underlying push for control; control of the education system and control of the population via the educational system. There is also a politcal turn against religion in general that is brewing, fueled by terrorism propaganda and the stereotyping of both Christian and Muslim followers. It is turning into a three way fight that can only have one end. The government controls money, policy, and military force, which means it will be a bad time to be religious when the politicians make their move, and evolutionist/atheism will be there backing them up.

How long until we start seeing things about religious people, or people of a certain demographic/ethnicity being genetically inferior again?

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2010/08/23/uk-muslims-keep-marrying-first-cousins-despite...
http://www.islam-watch.org/home/73-brahmachari/983-inbreeding-and-resulting-genetic-dis...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/13/world/europe/13sarrazin.html?_r=0
http://www.growtheheckup.com/2010/04/harvard-student-says-blacks-genetically.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/victor-stenger/religion-and-science-_b_2719280.html


Oh wait, that's right. We are already seeing these things happen again. It always starts small.

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.


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