Evolution and humans: interbreeding (Evolution)

by Balance_Maintained @, U.S.A., Thursday, August 23, 2018, 05:41 (308 days ago) @ David Turell

David Comment: Since early homo forms did not seem to understand how to build shelters they lived in caves, a great source for fossils. Interbreeding does not seem rare based on what has been found.

Tony: spe·cies
a group of living organisms consisting of similar individuals capable of exchanging genes or interbreeding. The species is the principal natural taxonomic unit, ranking below a genus and denoted by a Latin binomial, e.g., Homo sapiens.

I.E. They are the same damn species... by definition.


"If two lineages of oak look quite different, but occasionally form hybrids with each other, should we count them as different species? There are lots of other places where the boundary of a species is blurred. It's not so surprising that these blurry places exist — after all, the idea of a species is something that we humans invented for our own convenience!"


David: Good point. Based on DNA at least they are a very different variety.

Tony: Going to toss on my biblical hat for a moment and say, if the Bible's explanation for neanderthal origins are true, then the original neanderthal was literally brother to a human. It also indicates an immediate geographic situation, and population separation for some time after, then foretells a mingling of the two later.

David: I think they are a form of human; they certainly had aesthetics ,but perhaps not as bright as we are. Can you see a direct reference in the Bible?

Genesis 25:24-25, particularly verse 25.

24 When the time came for her to give birth, there were twin boys in her womb. 25 The first to come out was red, and his whole body was like a hairy garment; so they named him Esau.

In chapter 26:34 Esau takes to normal wives.
In 27:11

Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, “But my brother Esau is a hairy man while I have smooth skin. "

In 27:16 She also covered his hands and the smooth part of his neck with the goatskins.
How hairy would Esau had to be in order for them to need goatskins to replicate the feel of him?

In 27:39-40

His father Isaac answered him,

“Your dwelling will be
away from the earth’s richness,
away from the dew of heaven above.

Perhaps a reference to cave dwelling.

40 You will live by the sword
and you will serve your brother.
But when you grow restless,
you will throw his yoke
from off your neck.”

A hunter/warrior society. He bred with Hittites while is brother was instructed to look elsewhere. So there would have been some genetic separation in the immediately following generation, most tellingly, the mitochondrial DNA that comes from the mother.

I acknowledge this as sketch evidence at best, but it is the closest I have ever seen to a historical record of Hairy Man

What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.

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