Evolution and humans: Neanderthal lungs larger (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, November 02, 2018, 19:36 (2211 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: So 1) Do you think he popped in to expand their lungs? And 2) Why bother with several approaches if, as you insist, his purpose was to produce the brain of Homo sapiens?

DAVID: You always attempt to minimize my theory about the appearance of humans by simply referring to one organ. The entire human body is a major reconstruction of the basic ape form. Please recognize that major point!

dhw: Of course it is a major reconstruction. But since you made a special point about one organ – the birth canal - and the need for your God to fiddle with it in order to accommodate the bigger fetus and its skull, I’m simply asking if you think your God also fiddled with Neanderthal’s bigger lungs. Do please answer.

The birth canal presents a paradox for natural evolution, a MAJOR point. Answered below:

DAVID: The Neanderthal phenotype is different than ours and only one of several types of humans that appeared most like under God's guidance. I don't know if God preferred one over the other when He started the evolution of each type.

dhw: I know it’s different, and I know there were other forms of human, and I’m asking why you believe he “started the evolution” of these different types though you keep telling us that his purpose was to produce the brain of Homo sapiens.

Again, just a brain. The brain is part of a very different organism, the whole human. By sticking with just a brain, you are making an obvious attempt to belittle the whole concept of amazing humans.

DAVID (under spiders’ webs): God's purpose is much grander than brains. The entire human organism is an amazing advance over the apes.

dhw: OK, so your God’s purpose was to produce the brain and body of Homo sapiens. So why do you think he specially designed thousands of spiders’ webs and all the other species of human?

dhw: We’d better get rid of one stock spidery response while we’re at it:

DAVID: Spiders have no relation to human brains other than they are part of the necessary balance of nature.

dhw: Necessary for what? “Balance of nature” means no more than the fact that all life forms have to be balanced or they die, and all econiches are balanced until their balance changes to a different balance. As you say, nothing to do with human brains, or do you really believe your God had to design 50,000 webs (not to mention my old friend the weaverbird's nest) or we wouldn't exist?

You've just admitted econiches are necessary. They are a requirement of maintenance of life. The diversity of forms create the niches. We don't disagree. Each niche requires a different web. So?