Problems with this section; for Frank (Agnosticism)

by David Turell , Friday, November 20, 2009, 16:51 (5481 days ago) @ Frank Paris


> Human consciousness is also just a process. It doesn't not have any "persistence", the way a lump of flesh like the human brain has. Consciousness is something that comes and goes, even while we're awake! It depends on the human brain as its substrate, but it does not have a continuous existence. Without the activity of the human brain to keep it going, it simply fades out of existence, even while we're alive. When we fall asleep, it goes away. It has no existence outside of process.-I have a problem with your statement that consciousness stops with sleep. Are dreams consciousness in some form? How about out-of-body experiences under anesthesia? In sleep apnea EEG studies, there is cortical activity, the source of consciousness in your formulation.-> 
> Yet those who believe in immortality probably believe that consciousness lives on after death.-There are many near to death (NDE) reports from patients who learn of other persons' deaths by communication with persons on the 'other side'. These are verified third person observations, especially in hospice situations.The patient had no other souce of inforation except from the NDE.