Problems with this section; for Frank (Agnosticism)

by David Turell @, Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 19:18 (5483 days ago) @ Frank Paris

I'm saying that within process philosophy (and even since Kant!) the concept of "substance" is meaningless. I'm also saying that it is meaningless to ask what God is "made out of."-It is an obvious concept to recognize that we have no idea of what God 'is'. Each of us can guess if we wish: substance or not.-> 
> but everything is nothing more than process.
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> God spins off minimal reflections of himself that manifest themselves in our universe as fundamentals, whatever they are, and whatever they are, they are processes. In our universe, fundamentals are indeed mass/energy, in terms of today's science. But "fundamentally," underneath, fundamentals are just processes. They aren't something that "persists" outside of process.-Are the processes programed to advance in complexity as we see in the development of the universe and the appearance of life from inorganic matter? Or is it all due to chance within a process?
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> Each fundamental process has its own nature, which determines its experience and how it reacts with other fundamentals, and ultimately all of them acting together over the ages produces the universe we live in.-This sounds like pre-existing programming.
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> Now before reading all this, you might have felt that you were understanding everything I was saying. Now you're probably more bewildered than ever. That's good. I sense a flurry of new questions coming my way.-I'm not bewildered. I have, obviously, my own thought-out notions. Yours are different, and I need further definition of the concept of 'processes". As I come to understand your concepts, I'm sure the whole development of your ideas will be quite logical coming out of your basic premises.


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