Explaining natural wonders (Animals)
Dhw: […] The theistic question is therefore whether this bottom up process was preprogrammed and/or dabbled by God, or simply set in motion through his invention of an autonomous IM. Could it be that you are excluding the latter out of fear that it might open the door to an atheistic interpretation of evolution? If so, have no fear. There is no getting round the problem of the source of the autonomous IM, so you are safe to accept it as a POSSIBILITY, which is all I ask.
DAVID: You have repeated all of our struggles. I have agreed that God could have used an IM, but always with the proviso that God would give it explicit guidelines or step in and dabble. The key to all of this is God is in control of evolution. You accept that as a possibility without accepting God, as you sit on your picket fence.
An AUTONOMOUS inventive mechanism is not autonomous if it is controlled by God. According to you he specially designed everything, although he only wanted to design one thing. Why are you so afraid to acknowledge the POSSIBILITY that he enabled organisms to do their own designing (though with the option of dabbling when he felt like it)?
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- Explaining natural wonders: bacterial intelligence -
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- Explaining natural wonders -
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