Purpose and design (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Thursday, April 27, 2017, 19:56 (843 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

Tony: According to my belief system, he didn't tinker or experiment with consciousness because his very, very first creation WAS as conscious creature: his own son. Further, my belief system also states that he started his remaining creative works in an immaterial (spirit) plane of existence. Matter came much later to the scene, long after the creative process started. It could be that, in a sense, his son was formed much as a simple organism is, some form of energetic meiosis or mitosis, followed by a very long period of growth before creation started. Which, ironically, would have also have given him the inspiration for how to create self sustaining life simply mimicking his the start of the spread of his own existence.

David: As an outsider, I'm confused by your religious view, and I would like to understand it. Are you saying Jesus existed before the universe appeared? History says He was born in 33 BC.

Tony: There are numerous references to Jesus' prehuman existence, both in the OT and NT. Micah 5:2, for example, is a prophecy regarding Christ that clearly points to this. Also, if you compare Genesis 1:26, Colossians 1:15-17, Hebrews 1:2, John 1:3. He is also personified as Wisdom in Psalms 8:22-31, and Luke 1:20-25.

For the record, I much prefer to give you the scriptures rather than quote them directly. Even if your translation has some variance from mine, they are all very, very similar and the basic information is the same.

Jesus was the first born of all creation. Given that angels repeatedly took on human form, it is no huge shock that the son of God could do the same.

Thank you for the references. I can see how you might interpret them.

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