Purpose and design (Evolution)
DAVID: My discussion is there also. I'm with Tony.
dhw: Not answered. It is you who have suggested that God might have had to wait, i.e. that his limitations forced him to rely on changes beyond his control. Your problem here is that you cannot make up your mind whether he was or was not in control of the ever changing environment. If he was in control, and if his sole purpose was to create humans, he delayed and you don’t know why. If he wasn’t in control, his powers were limited, which conflicts with your belief that he could have created humans without difficulty. But you still can’t see that there is no conflict of ideas if you simply acknowledge that God’s sole purpose may not have been the production of humans, and/or the vast range of life forms, lifestyles and natural wonders were not all geared to that one purpose.
If God set up evolutionary processes that led to desired goals a passage of time is required. That cannot be viewed as a delay, unless you feel God can instantly create anything. I don't. He uses evolutionary processes.
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dhw,
2017-04-07, 17:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 21:33
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 05:55
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dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:03
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 15:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-08, 18:13
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 18:53
- Purpose and design - dhw, 2017-04-09, 09:47
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John Kalber,
2017-07-04, 17:19
- Purpose and design - John Kalber, 2017-07-04, 17:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 22:24
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 05:58
- Purpose and design - BBella, 2017-04-08, 19:46
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 00:09
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dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:22
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 16:07
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BBella,
2017-04-08, 20:30
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 23:55
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BBella,
2017-04-09, 00:14
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-09, 00:50
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BBella,
2017-04-09, 00:14
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 23:55
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dhw,
2017-04-09, 09:38
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David Turell,
2017-04-09, 14:50
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dhw,
2017-04-10, 11:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-10, 15:26
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dhw,
2017-04-11, 11:53
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David Turell,
2017-04-11, 18:54
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:50
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:34
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:25
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-13, 22:25
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:25
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:34
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:50
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-12, 03:09
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:55
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:30
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:19
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David Turell,
2017-04-13, 22:19
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dhw,
2017-04-14, 11:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-14, 15:42
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dhw,
2017-04-15, 12:59
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David Turell,
2017-04-15, 18:58
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dhw,
2017-04-16, 14:53
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David Turell,
2017-04-16, 16:23
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dhw,
2017-04-17, 13:22
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David Turell,
2017-04-17, 23:38
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dhw,
2017-04-18, 09:30
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David Turell,
2017-04-18, 15:27
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dhw,
2017-04-19, 12:09
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-19, 15:59
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-19, 20:06
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 00:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-20, 04:42
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dhw,
2017-04-20, 13:04
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 16:16
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dhw,
2017-04-21, 13:52
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-21, 18:32
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dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 00:27
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 02:16
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dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:17
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David Turell,
2017-04-23, 14:52
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:52
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:39
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:54
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 19:40
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:57
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:16
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-27, 05:33
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:16
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 18:21
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dhw,
2017-04-27, 12:37
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-27, 20:13
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dhw,
2017-04-27, 12:37
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:57
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:35
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-25, 19:40
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:54
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:39
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:52
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 23:52
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-24, 00:06
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David Turell,
2017-04-23, 14:52
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:56
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-25, 00:39
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:47
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-25, 19:30
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:25
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:41
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 14:12
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 05:49
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-27, 19:56
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 05:49
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dhw,
2017-04-27, 12:09
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-27, 20:00
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dhw,
2017-04-28, 17:51
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David Turell,
2017-04-29, 00:58
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-29, 05:51
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David Turell,
2017-04-29, 15:30
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-29, 15:35
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David Turell,
2017-04-29, 15:30
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dhw,
2017-05-01, 08:58
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David Turell,
2017-05-01, 18:57
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dhw,
2017-05-02, 11:51
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David Turell,
2017-05-02, 18:31
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dhw,
2017-05-03, 12:56
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-05-03, 15:14
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dhw,
2017-05-04, 12:04
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David Turell,
2017-05-05, 01:32
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dhw,
2017-05-05, 12:36
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-05-06, 00:06
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dhw,
2017-05-05, 12:36
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David Turell,
2017-05-05, 01:32
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dhw,
2017-05-04, 12:04
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-05-03, 15:14
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dhw,
2017-05-03, 12:56
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-05-02, 18:31
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dhw,
2017-05-02, 11:51
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-05-01, 18:57
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-29, 05:51
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-29, 00:58
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-28, 17:51
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 22:18
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-28, 00:02
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David Turell,
2017-04-27, 20:00
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:21
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-26, 18:28
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 14:12
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:41
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:47
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-25, 00:39
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 01:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 00:27
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:21
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-21, 22:11
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-21, 18:32
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-21, 13:52
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-20, 16:32
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-20, 16:16
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-20, 13:04
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-20, 04:42
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-20, 00:21
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-20, 12:51
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-20, 18:56
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dhw,
2017-04-21, 14:00
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-21, 22:19
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:27
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-23, 02:00
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:37
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 15:16
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-24, 00:11
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-24, 05:06
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:58
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:55
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:04
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-26, 01:31
- Purpose and design -
Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:53
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-26, 18:41
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:53
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-26, 01:31
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:04
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:55
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:37
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-23, 02:00
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:27
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-21, 22:19
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-21, 14:00
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-20, 18:56
- Purpose and design -
Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-19, 20:06
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-19, 15:59
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-19, 12:09
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-18, 15:27
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-18, 09:30
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-17, 23:38
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-17, 13:22
- Purpose and design -
Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-17, 05:25
- Purpose and design - dhw, 2017-04-17, 13:26
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-16, 16:23
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-16, 14:53
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-17, 05:17
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-15, 18:58
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-15, 12:59
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-14, 15:42
- Purpose and design -
Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-17, 05:09
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-17, 23:12
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-14, 11:42
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-13, 22:19
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:19
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:30
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:55
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-11, 18:54
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-11, 11:53
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-10, 15:26
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-10, 11:42
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-09, 14:50
- Purpose and design -
BBella,
2017-04-08, 20:30
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-08, 16:07
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 21:33