Purpose and design (Evolution)
DAVID: […] Genome manipulation for speciation does not seem to be the limiting problem. Thus we can eliminate 1 as God having to learn how to manipulate genome speciation.dhw: Hold on. According to you it requires a special manipulation to produce the human brain. Knowing the general principle doesn’t give you the precise formula for the one thing you particularly want. Option 1 does not mean he had a blueprint for humans. He may have thought the whale would resemble himself (and even fiddled several versions of it), but no…it still didn’t have that extra degree of consciousness… better try something else.
See my comments in my answer to your discussion with Tony.
DAVID: He had to wait for geologic and atmospheric changes in the Earth as it evolved. Proper continents, ocean currents, weather patterns, etc. had to appear and stabilize. Chicxulub had to happen as a final step in severe asteroid bombardment. His limits, if any, might reside here.dhw: So your God, who could create and fine-tune the universe, may not have had control over the environment. He had to “wait” for it do the right thing, to “appear”, to “happen”. Chicxulub: what a stroke of luck…maybe, or maybe not, because after your firm rejection of limitations, you are now back to either/or. Discussion continued in my reply to Tony.
My discussion is there also. I'm with Tony.
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dhw,
2017-04-07, 17:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 21:33
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 05:55
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dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:03
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 15:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-08, 18:13
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 18:53
- Purpose and design - dhw, 2017-04-09, 09:47
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John Kalber,
2017-07-04, 17:19
- Purpose and design - John Kalber, 2017-07-04, 17:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 22:24
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 05:58
- Purpose and design - BBella, 2017-04-08, 19:46
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 00:09
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dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:22
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 16:07
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BBella,
2017-04-08, 20:30
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 23:55
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BBella,
2017-04-09, 00:14
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-09, 00:50
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BBella,
2017-04-09, 00:14
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 23:55
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dhw,
2017-04-09, 09:38
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David Turell,
2017-04-09, 14:50
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dhw,
2017-04-10, 11:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-10, 15:26
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dhw,
2017-04-11, 11:53
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David Turell,
2017-04-11, 18:54
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:50
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:34
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:25
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:25
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:34
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:50
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-12, 03:09
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:55
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:30
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:19
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David Turell,
2017-04-13, 22:19
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dhw,
2017-04-14, 11:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-14, 15:42
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dhw,
2017-04-15, 12:59
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David Turell,
2017-04-15, 18:58
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dhw,
2017-04-16, 14:53
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David Turell,
2017-04-16, 16:23
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dhw,
2017-04-17, 13:22
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David Turell,
2017-04-17, 23:38
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dhw,
2017-04-18, 09:30
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David Turell,
2017-04-18, 15:27
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dhw,
2017-04-19, 12:09
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David Turell,
2017-04-19, 15:59
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-19, 20:06
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 00:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-20, 04:42
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dhw,
2017-04-20, 13:04
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 16:16
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dhw,
2017-04-21, 13:52
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-21, 18:32
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dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 00:27
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 02:16
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dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:17
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David Turell,
2017-04-23, 14:52
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:52
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:39
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:54
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 19:40
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:57
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:16
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-27, 05:33
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:16
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 18:21
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dhw,
2017-04-27, 12:37
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dhw,
2017-04-27, 12:37
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:57
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:35
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 19:40
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:54
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:39
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:52
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 23:52
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David Turell,
2017-04-23, 14:52
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:56
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-25, 00:39
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:47
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-25, 19:30
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:25
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:41
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 14:12
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 05:49
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-27, 19:56
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 05:49
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dhw,
2017-04-27, 12:09
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David Turell,
2017-04-27, 20:00
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dhw,
2017-04-28, 17:51
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David Turell,
2017-04-29, 00:58
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-29, 05:51
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David Turell,
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David Turell,
2017-04-29, 15:30
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dhw,
2017-05-01, 08:58
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David Turell,
2017-05-01, 18:57
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
2017-05-03, 12:56
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David Turell,
2017-05-03, 15:14
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dhw,
2017-05-04, 12:04
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David Turell,
2017-05-05, 01:32
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dhw,
2017-05-05, 12:36
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-05-06, 00:06
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dhw,
2017-05-05, 12:36
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David Turell,
2017-05-05, 01:32
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dhw,
2017-05-04, 12:04
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David Turell,
2017-05-03, 15:14
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dhw,
2017-05-03, 12:56
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David Turell,
2017-05-02, 18:31
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dhw,
2017-05-02, 11:51
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David Turell,
2017-05-01, 18:57
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-29, 05:51
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David Turell,
2017-04-29, 00:58
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dhw,
2017-04-28, 17:51
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 22:18
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-28, 00:02
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David Turell,
2017-04-27, 20:00
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:21
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-26, 18:28
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 14:12
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:41
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:47
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-25, 00:39
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 01:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 00:27
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dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:21
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-21, 22:11
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-21, 18:32
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dhw,
2017-04-21, 13:52
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-20, 16:32
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 16:16
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dhw,
2017-04-20, 13:04
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-20, 04:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 00:21
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dhw,
2017-04-20, 12:51
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 18:56
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dhw,
2017-04-21, 14:00
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David Turell,
2017-04-21, 22:19
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dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:27
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David Turell,
2017-04-23, 02:00
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dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:37
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 15:16
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-24, 00:11
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-24, 05:06
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:58
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:55
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:04
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 01:31
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:53
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-26, 18:41
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:53
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 01:31
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:04
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:55
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dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:37
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David Turell,
2017-04-23, 02:00
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dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:27
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David Turell,
2017-04-21, 22:19
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dhw,
2017-04-21, 14:00
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 18:56
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-19, 20:06
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David Turell,
2017-04-19, 15:59
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dhw,
2017-04-19, 12:09
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David Turell,
2017-04-18, 15:27
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dhw,
2017-04-18, 09:30
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David Turell,
2017-04-17, 23:38
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dhw,
2017-04-17, 13:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-17, 05:25
- Purpose and design - dhw, 2017-04-17, 13:26
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-16, 16:23
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-16, 14:53
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-17, 05:17
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-15, 18:58
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-15, 12:59
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David Turell,
2017-04-14, 15:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-17, 05:09
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-17, 23:12
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dhw,
2017-04-14, 11:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-13, 22:19
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:19
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:30
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:55
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David Turell,
2017-04-11, 18:54
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dhw,
2017-04-11, 11:53
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David Turell,
2017-04-10, 15:26
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dhw,
2017-04-10, 11:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-09, 14:50
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BBella,
2017-04-08, 20:30
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 16:07
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dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 21:33