Purpose and design (Evolution)
David: Slightly twisted interpretation. Something more: The nest fits into the concept of balance of nature supplying energy for life in evolution. Each eco-niche fills the balance. All I can say about your theistic question is God helped the bird with the design. The bird could not do it on its own.
BBella: What you are saying that you believe, David, is that God, through the bird's own consciousness, guided the bird to design this particular new type of intricate nest, correct? So that anyone observing this very first process of the bird building this new nest, would say, wow...look at that strange new type of nest that bird just built! Obviously you do not mean that God directly chose a particular bird and sent him to God's 'School for Nest Building', right?
My belief is the lifestyle of the weaverbird required a nest like this for the safety of the newborn chicks, and God showed the bird how to create it, probably by giving the bird a design to follow. Have you seen the intricacy of the various knots employed?
So, by saying, "God showed the bird how to create it, probably by giving the bird a design to follow", it sounds as though you are pretty much saying God did send him to bird school! And if you, as an observer, happened to had observed this bird being shown the design by God at that moment in time, what would you have observed?
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dhw,
2017-04-07, 17:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 21:33
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dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:03
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Balance_Maintained,
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2017-07-04, 17:19
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 22:24
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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BBella,
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David Turell,
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BBella,
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BBella,
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 23:55
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:30
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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Balance_Maintained,
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David Turell,
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Balance_Maintained,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-21, 18:32
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dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 00:27
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:57
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:16
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David Turell,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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Balance_Maintained,
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dhw,
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Balance_Maintained,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 05:49
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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Balance_Maintained,
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David Turell,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-29, 05:51
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David Turell,
2017-04-29, 00:58
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dhw,
2017-04-28, 17:51
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 22:18
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-28, 00:02
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David Turell,
2017-04-27, 20:00
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 14:12
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:41
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:47
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-25, 00:39
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 01:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 00:27
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dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:21
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-21, 22:11
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-21, 18:32
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dhw,
2017-04-21, 13:52
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-20, 16:32
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 16:16
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dhw,
2017-04-20, 13:04
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-20, 04:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 00:21
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dhw,
2017-04-20, 12:51
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 18:56
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dhw,
2017-04-21, 14:00
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David Turell,
2017-04-21, 22:19
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dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:27
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David Turell,
2017-04-23, 02:00
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dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:37
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 15:16
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-24, 00:11
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-24, 05:06
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:58
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:55
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:04
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 01:31
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:53
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-26, 18:41
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:53
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 01:31
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:04
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:55
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dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:37
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David Turell,
2017-04-23, 02:00
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dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:27
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David Turell,
2017-04-21, 22:19
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dhw,
2017-04-21, 14:00
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 18:56
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-19, 20:06
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David Turell,
2017-04-19, 15:59
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dhw,
2017-04-19, 12:09
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David Turell,
2017-04-18, 15:27
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dhw,
2017-04-18, 09:30
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David Turell,
2017-04-17, 23:38
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dhw,
2017-04-17, 13:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-17, 05:25
- Purpose and design - dhw, 2017-04-17, 13:26
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-16, 16:23
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-16, 14:53
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-17, 05:17
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-15, 18:58
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-15, 12:59
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David Turell,
2017-04-14, 15:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-17, 05:09
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-17, 23:12
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dhw,
2017-04-14, 11:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-13, 22:19
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:19
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:30
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:55
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David Turell,
2017-04-11, 18:54
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dhw,
2017-04-11, 11:53
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David Turell,
2017-04-10, 15:26
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dhw,
2017-04-10, 11:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-09, 14:50
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BBella,
2017-04-08, 20:30
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 16:07
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dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 21:33