Purpose and design (Evolution)
dhw: Two of the hypotheses (God experimenting to produce a being like himself, and God thinking of humans later on in the course of evolution) do presume his existence. The autonomous inventive intelligence does not presume his existence, but it allows for him to be its inventor, and also allows for him to dabble if he does exist. I prefer all three of these to the concept of a God who designs every life form so that he can put off designing the only life form he wants to design.
DAVID: The timing of humans is obviously God's choice of action. He probably does not view it as 'putting off'. That is your humanized version.
Then let me stick rigidly to your terminology and say I prefer any one of those three to the concept of a God who designed every other life form and natural wonder so that it would take a long time for him to produce the only life form he actually wanted to produce, and which he could have produced without any difficulty. Since you have agreed that there can be no “clear indisputable answer” and have withdrawn Saturday’s decisive conclusion, do please tell us which of these four hypotheses you now consider most likely.
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dhw,
2017-04-07, 17:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 21:33
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 05:55
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dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:03
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 15:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-08, 18:13
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 18:53
- Purpose and design - dhw, 2017-04-09, 09:47
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John Kalber,
2017-07-04, 17:19
- Purpose and design - John Kalber, 2017-07-04, 17:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 22:24
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-08, 05:58
- Purpose and design - BBella, 2017-04-08, 19:46
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 00:09
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dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:22
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 16:07
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BBella,
2017-04-08, 20:30
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 23:55
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BBella,
2017-04-09, 00:14
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-09, 00:50
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BBella,
2017-04-09, 00:14
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David Turell,
2017-04-08, 23:55
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dhw,
2017-04-09, 09:38
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David Turell,
2017-04-09, 14:50
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dhw,
2017-04-10, 11:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-10, 15:26
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dhw,
2017-04-11, 11:53
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David Turell,
2017-04-11, 18:54
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:50
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:34
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:25
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-13, 22:25
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:25
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:34
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:50
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-12, 03:09
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dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:55
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David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:30
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dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:19
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David Turell,
2017-04-13, 22:19
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dhw,
2017-04-14, 11:42
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David Turell,
2017-04-14, 15:42
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dhw,
2017-04-15, 12:59
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-15, 18:58
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dhw,
2017-04-16, 14:53
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David Turell,
2017-04-16, 16:23
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dhw,
2017-04-17, 13:22
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David Turell,
2017-04-17, 23:38
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dhw,
2017-04-18, 09:30
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David Turell,
2017-04-18, 15:27
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dhw,
2017-04-19, 12:09
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-19, 15:59
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-19, 20:06
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David Turell,
2017-04-20, 00:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-20, 04:42
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dhw,
2017-04-20, 13:04
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-20, 16:16
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dhw,
2017-04-21, 13:52
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-21, 18:32
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dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 00:27
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 02:16
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dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:17
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-23, 14:52
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:52
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:39
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:54
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 19:40
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:57
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:16
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-27, 05:33
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:16
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David Turell,
2017-04-26, 18:21
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dhw,
2017-04-27, 12:37
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-27, 20:13
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dhw,
2017-04-27, 12:37
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:57
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:35
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-25, 19:40
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:54
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David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:39
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:52
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 23:52
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-24, 00:06
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David Turell,
2017-04-23, 14:52
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dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:56
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-25, 00:39
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dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:47
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-25, 19:30
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:25
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dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:41
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 14:12
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 05:49
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-27, 19:56
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 05:49
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dhw,
2017-04-27, 12:09
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-27, 20:00
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dhw,
2017-04-28, 17:51
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David Turell,
2017-04-29, 00:58
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-29, 05:51
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David Turell,
2017-04-29, 15:30
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-29, 15:35
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David Turell,
2017-04-29, 15:30
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dhw,
2017-05-01, 08:58
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David Turell,
2017-05-01, 18:57
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dhw,
2017-05-02, 11:51
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David Turell,
2017-05-02, 18:31
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dhw,
2017-05-03, 12:56
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David Turell,
2017-05-03, 15:14
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dhw,
2017-05-04, 12:04
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David Turell,
2017-05-05, 01:32
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dhw,
2017-05-05, 12:36
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-05-06, 00:06
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dhw,
2017-05-05, 12:36
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David Turell,
2017-05-05, 01:32
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dhw,
2017-05-04, 12:04
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David Turell,
2017-05-03, 15:14
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dhw,
2017-05-03, 12:56
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-05-02, 18:31
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dhw,
2017-05-02, 11:51
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-05-01, 18:57
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-29, 05:51
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-29, 00:58
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-28, 17:51
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-27, 22:18
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-28, 00:02
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David Turell,
2017-04-27, 20:00
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-26, 19:21
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-26, 18:28
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 14:12
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-26, 09:41
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-25, 09:47
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-25, 00:39
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 01:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-23, 00:27
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:21
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-21, 22:11
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-21, 18:32
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-21, 13:52
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-20, 16:32
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-20, 16:16
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-20, 13:04
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-20, 04:42
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-20, 00:21
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-20, 12:51
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-20, 18:56
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-21, 14:00
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-21, 22:19
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:27
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-23, 02:00
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:37
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-23, 15:16
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-24, 00:11
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-24, 05:06
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-24, 14:58
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:55
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:04
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-26, 01:31
- Purpose and design -
Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:53
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-26, 18:41
- Purpose and design -
Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 13:53
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-26, 01:31
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-26, 01:04
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-25, 00:55
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-23, 10:37
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-23, 02:00
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-22, 11:27
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-21, 22:19
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-21, 14:00
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-20, 18:56
- Purpose and design -
Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-19, 20:06
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-19, 15:59
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-19, 12:09
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-18, 15:27
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-18, 09:30
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-17, 23:38
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-17, 13:22
- Purpose and design -
Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-17, 05:25
- Purpose and design - dhw, 2017-04-17, 13:26
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-16, 16:23
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-16, 14:53
- Purpose and design - Balance_Maintained, 2017-04-17, 05:17
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-15, 18:58
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-15, 12:59
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-14, 15:42
- Purpose and design -
Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-17, 05:09
- Purpose and design - David Turell, 2017-04-17, 23:12
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-14, 11:42
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-13, 22:19
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-13, 10:19
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-12, 22:30
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-12, 10:55
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-11, 18:54
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-11, 11:53
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-10, 15:26
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-10, 11:42
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-09, 14:50
- Purpose and design -
BBella,
2017-04-08, 20:30
- Purpose and design -
David Turell,
2017-04-08, 16:07
- Purpose and design -
dhw,
2017-04-08, 13:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2017-04-07, 21:33