particles and connections (General)
dhw: You don’t have to be a quantum physicist or a philosopher to be aware that the reality we know subjectively is not complete. .... But over and over again you have posted articles which suggest that the reality we think we know is in some way illusory, and that is what I complain about.
DAVID: What seems illusory is quanta doing strange things related to consciousness, like the late choice experiments. you are stuck with it, complaints or not.
I don’t mind being stuck with the illusory nature of the quantum world. What I will not be stuck with is the claim made by some scientists and philosophers that our perceptions of the world we live in are illusory. Neither subjectivity nor the weird behaviour of particles rules out the possibility that our perceptions are objectively correct. Hence my advice to the illusionists to step in front of a bus.
dhw: The universe is unquestionably based on something that is beyond our current understanding. My musings were rather more personal, though, as I was really wondering why interconnectedness was such an important factor in BBella’s concept of the ALL THAT IS. In relation to your own beliefs, which require God to be within and without the world as we know it, there is a similar problem. Is God within the pebble on the beach? If so, what does that mean? Needless to say, this is only the tip of the philosophical iceberg.
DAVID: Let BBella answer.
She has done so, as in the next post, but do feel free to explain how you think God is within and without the pebble.
Complete thread:
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dhw,
2017-02-04, 13:54
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-04, 22:04
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dhw,
2017-02-05, 11:03
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David Turell,
2017-02-05, 19:11
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dhw,
2017-02-06, 16:34
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David Turell,
2017-02-07, 00:42
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dhw,
2017-02-07, 11:24
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-07, 16:34
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-08, 12:20
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-09, 02:10
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-09, 15:12
- particles and connections - David Turell, 2017-02-09, 18:41
- particles and connections -
BBella,
2017-02-09, 20:35
- particles and connections - David Turell, 2017-02-09, 20:55
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-10, 13:24
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-11, 01:26
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-11, 13:01
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-11, 14:55
- particles and connections #2 - David Turell, 2017-02-11, 15:15
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-11, 15:30
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-12, 09:00
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-12, 15:34
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-13, 13:20
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-13, 16:36
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-14, 12:00
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-14, 14:22
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-15, 08:21
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-15, 18:42
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-16, 09:08
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-16, 20:16
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-17, 14:06
- particles and connections - David Turell, 2017-02-17, 18:54
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-17, 14:06
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-16, 20:16
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-16, 09:08
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-15, 18:42
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-15, 08:21
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-14, 14:22
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-14, 12:00
- Interconnection with all that IS Part 1 -
BBella,
2017-02-14, 06:20
- Interconnection with all that IS Part 2 -
BBella,
2017-02-14, 06:21
- Interconnection with all that IS Part 2 -
dhw,
2017-02-15, 08:44
- Interconnection with all that IS Part 2 - David Turell, 2017-02-15, 18:56
- Interconnection with all that IS Part 2 -
dhw,
2017-02-15, 08:44
- Interconnection with all that IS Part 2 -
BBella,
2017-02-14, 06:21
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-13, 16:36
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-13, 13:20
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-12, 15:34
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-12, 09:00
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-11, 14:55
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-11, 13:01
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-11, 01:26
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-09, 15:12
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-09, 02:10
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-08, 12:20
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-07, 16:34
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-07, 11:24
- particles and connections -
BBella,
2017-02-07, 04:26
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-07, 11:27
- particles and connections - David Turell, 2017-02-07, 16:37
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-07, 11:27
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-07, 00:42
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-06, 16:34
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-05, 19:11
- particles and connections -
dhw,
2017-02-05, 11:03
- particles and connections -
David Turell,
2017-02-04, 22:04