Dualism (Identity)
> > Tony: If Heaven and Hell are real, why do they see dead people floating around outside windows? > > My patients and the stories I have read always describe dead people they knew. Never live persons. Since you and I have discussed that people are living souls, incased in a body that can die, my approach is different. In my view the souls go to an afterlife, no physical body involved. That container is dead and buried. In the Jewish religion Heaven and Hell are concepts of no importance, as I have indicated. In the afterlife I assume a soul may have a familiar appearance to the observer, an outer aura. The communication experienced is always telepathic according to the NDE'rs. > > > > Tony: if Heaven and Hell are NOT real, why do they report visiting heaven and seeing their relatives there? > > David: This is your issue not mine. I don't care about the heaven/hell concept. > > > > Tony: If the dead are conscious, then are they in heaven, hell, or here? > > If the dead are NOT conscious, then who was it that they saw? > >David: I've explained my concept. It is souls, not bodies. -As I have said before, I do not believe in Heaven or Hell the way it has been popularized. I merely posted these points to try and cover the bases. Also, I think we got wires crossed somewhere. Humans ARE souls, they do not possess souls. I do not believe in an "immortal soul". This concept, along with the traditional heaven, hell, and triune God all originated in Babylonian teachings.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
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