Dualism (Identity)
DHW: As regards NDEs, David tells us that many patients claim actually to have met dead people. You have referred to them as providing support for your analogy, so you must know this. Are you then claiming that those patients are lying, or deluded? > > Tony: Deluded or lying are both very negative statements. Perhaps misled, misguided, or even conned might be better put. I think that they see something. I think that they believe what they see is really what they think it is. So no, I do not think they are lying or deluded. However, from a biblical perspective the are not speaking to the dead.-Since I am dragged into this discussion I have to step in to support my point of view. I understand your point of view that the Bible is infallible, but you have sidestepped the repeated observation that the NDE'rs not only 'see' the dead, they learn confirmable information they could not otherwise have discovered or known previously. How do you view this aspect of the experience, since new information is exchanged, that is, new for the experiencer? It seems to me you are denying the concept of a 'heaven' with a gathering of souls.
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