near to death episodes (Endings)

by George Jelliss ⌂ @, Crewe, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 12:50 (6126 days ago) @ David Turell

David Turell claims: Both out of the body and near to death episodes have been confirmed. It depends what your standard of confirmation is. All of the published accounts are anecdotal and thus unscientific. - In the text D. H. Wilson writes: Some people /// have reported extraordinary experiences ///. None of this can be dismissed. It cannot be verified either It could be verified if someone could be found who is willing and able to undergo an out-of-body experience at will. For instance by the experimenter hiding something out of sight that could only be seen when the participant is out-of-body. But the trouble is that these extraordinary experiences apparently only occur in one-off stressful situations and are therefore, conveniently for the believer, untestable. The stressful situation is in itself sufficient explanation for many of the experiences. - In the text D.H.W. also has: There is no doubt that when we die, everything stops, the engine cuts out, the light goes off, the bubble bursts ... but what is it that leaves us? And when it all began, a thousand ages ago, what was it that entered us? We do not know. There is no scientist on earth who can tell us. There is no atheist or theologian on earth who can tell us. Since we do not know, we must keep an open mind about the possibilities. There is nothing that leaves, because there is nothing that enters. We do know. Any idiot can tell us. The machinery of life stops because it breaks down. There is no "ghost in the machine", no "elan vital", no "spirit" or "soul". If you can restart the machine quickly enough, and make the necessary repairs, life returns, the chemical machine that is the living body works again. - We have kept an open mind about this for long enough. The evidence is in. There is no spirit world or life after death. It is time to stop being agnostic, and grow up and accept the truth.


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