near to death episodes: a book on the subject (Endings)

by David Turell , Tuesday, October 17, 2023, 04:47 (193 days ago) @ David Turell

An older study:

https://evolutionnews.org/2023/10/are-near-death-experiences-science-now/

"Sometimes the experiencer recounts apparent trivia:

"A nurse, on her first day back at work after vacation, was a member of the medical team that successfully resuscitated a female patient whom she did not know:
The very next day she saw the patient, who responded, “Oh, you’re the one with the plaid shoelaces!” and explained that she observed them while watching the resuscitation from overhead. Intriguingly, Harmon had just purchased the plaid shoelaces while on her vacation and had worn them to the hospital that day for the very first time. Though casual or mundane conversations by staff often occur in hospital settings, even during stressful times, the color of shoelaces does not appear to be a topic that would be likely be discussed or even noticed during a frantic resuscitation attempt.

"PP. 326–27 REF: KENNETH RING AND MADELAINE LAWRENCE, “FURTHER EVIDENCE FOR VERIDICAL PERCEPTION DURING NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES,” JOURNAL OF NEAR-DEATH STUDIES, 11 (1993): 223–229

"Psychiatrist Bruce Greyson first became interested in NDEs (near-death experiences) in a similar situation. An NDE experiencer noticed, in an out-of-body experience, a spaghetti stain on his tie, which he had successfully concealed from colleagues.

"Yet sometimes, the message the NDE experiencer offers is not trivial at all:
A young nine-year-old boy named Eddie was seriously ill in a hospital. Recovering from a thirty-six-hour fever, Eddie immediately told those in the hospital room that he had been to heaven, recounting seeing his grandfather, an aunt, and an uncle there. But then his startled and agitated father heard Eddie report that his nineteen-year-old sister Teresa, away at college, was in heaven too, and she told Eddie that he had to return. But the father had just spoken to Teresa two days prior. Checking with the college, the father found out that his daughter had been killed in a car accident the previous day.

"P. 331 BRUCE GREYSON, “SEEING DEAD PEOPLE NOT KNOWN TO HAVE DIED: ‘PEAK IN DARIEN’ EXPERIENCES,” ANTHROPOLOGY AND HUMANISM, 35 (2010): 159–171. P. 167 THE PAPER IS OPEN ACCESS

"The college had been unable to reach Teresa’s parents, probably because they were with Eddie. While near-death experiencers sometimes meet persons who were not known to have died, they rarely meet anyone who is alive in this world.

"These sorts of cases are not as rare as we might suppose, Habermas notes. There are many other solid ones.

"What to make of it all? Two things to start with: First, from time immemorial, there were stories, now and then, of a person who apparently died, saw the unseen world, and came back to tell about it. Carol Zaleski wrote a valuable book, Otherworld Journeys (Oxford University Press, 1987), collecting such stories from many genres. But how should we understand them? Are they divine truth? Pious fiction? Narcissistic fantasy?

"Who knows? Each interpretation comes with problems. If it’s divine truth, what about the cultural differences? If it is pious fiction, what about the knowledge (veridical experiences) gained while apparently dead? If it is fantasy, why all the life-changing experiences?"

Comment: facts like been have been n=reported here before: What is most special is the second one of the dead sister: No way of knowing this except through the NDE, which validates the episode as real and substantive. There are thousands of these validations. Read Greyson's book and be convinced. Dead brain, active consciousness episode!!! The first episode is out-of-the-body: common and not as convincing but lots more common. A patient of mine told me of hers during surgery.