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dhw: You claimed that the article supported dualism, but the experiences described ONLY refer to events that happened around the patient during the final few minutes of brain activity. This implies that awareness of what is going on around the patient still depends on the brain. That is why I suggest that the evidence for dualism comes from patients’ experiences AFTER the cessation of brain activity.
DAVID: Go back and read the article. Parnia is studying people who are clinically brain dead, and finds them experiencing events they should not be aware of. Inactive brain while having experiences is dualism to me.
I can’t get the whole article, so I am relying on what you posted. The only experiences recounted in the article are of events taking place in the presence of the patient, and the article is absolutely explicit that during these few minutes the brain is ACTIVE:
QUOTES:
"However, there’s evidence to suggest that there’s a burst of brain energy as someone dies.
"They saw activity patterns which are linked to a “hyper-alerted state” in the brief period after clinical death.” (My bold)
If there is a burst of brain energy in a hyper-alerted state and there are activity patterns in the brief period after clinical death, then the brain can’t be called inactive!
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