Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) (Humans)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Monday, March 07, 2011, 16:54 (5009 days ago) @ David Turell


> > Again... false distinctions, chance and design. Think process; no plan, only movement along an idea; inspiration on a cosmic scale. Explains much more than thinking of God as engineer... this view embraces chance and design as unity... not ALL things are guided.
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> A problem. Chance to me implies potentiality without guarantee. I'm potential at BB but must follow certain contingencies to get to me. I'm here, I was not designed to be here, my potential was realized, but it seems all chance. Chance and design are not the same. Yet I am part of the overall process which includes both chance and design.
> -To speak more plainly, this version of God I'm discussing didn't start out with a concrete plan because it IS the universe. There wasn't an if->then; remember again that God told Moses "I AM" for his name. Why? Jewish mystics, Sufis, Gnostics (when they were around) and Hindus all came to a similar conclusion about unity, even about this very idea we're discussing. The version of God I'm discussing exists only at this moment, can only modify things as he moves based on past knowledge and future prediction. He gets an idea to create conscious beings in order to not be alone, perhaps, so works through experiment to get the universe where it needs to go so that in at least one pocket, sentient beings arrive and can fathom him. -> The other thought: if time is a human construct, what is Einstein's space-time? A form of human relativity? Or a form of space evolution from the BB, which we view in a time measurement?-Einstein's spacetime is a mathematical construct that eliminated time as a fourth dimension and simply treats time and space as the same quantity. Time is relative--that's the whole point of the theory of relativity. If time were a real dimension, it would be the same for all bodies of mass everywhere, but for massive bodies, they experience time at a slower rate than small bodies.

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