Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) (Humans)
Does this mean that I exist at the same time with the inital cause of the infinite regress?-This sounds liked pre-determinism, everthing planned in advance. Yet another way of expressing it is, I was a potential at the BB, but not necessarily.-> Because we cannot truly separate cause and effect FROM cause and effect, the distance between us and 'initial cause' is zero. -What you seem to say: My God and I continue to exist together; it seems to jump out at me. We continue our connection that was there in the beginning quantum plasma. The BB is all potential, constant evolution, and our concept of time is of no consequence. My arrival is contingency, a la Gould.-If I am co-existing with my God, it seems to strengthen my belief system, not undermine it at all. -All of this is perfectly acceptable. It opens up my thinking but doesn't change anything. I am me. I look at reality around me the same way. I appreciate Gould a little more, but think he is totally wrong, as I still think evolution has coded directionality, and that explains much more satisfactorily where we are today than chance contingency.
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xeno6696,
2011-01-12, 02:16
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework - xeno6696, 2011-01-12, 02:31
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dhw,
2011-01-12, 20:27
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xeno6696,
2011-01-13, 22:32
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dhw,
2011-01-15, 12:51
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xeno6696,
2011-01-18, 01:16
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dhw,
2011-01-18, 14:00
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xeno6696,
2011-01-19, 03:22
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dhw,
2011-01-19, 13:07
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David Turell,
2011-01-19, 14:49
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dhw,
2011-01-20, 10:34
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:04
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:12
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework - dhw, 2011-01-21, 12:43
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:12
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:04
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework - xeno6696, 2011-01-20, 12:41
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xeno6696,
2011-01-20, 12:46
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:18
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xeno6696,
2011-01-20, 17:11
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 17:44
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework - xeno6696, 2011-01-20, 22:15
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 17:44
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xeno6696,
2011-01-20, 17:11
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:18
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dhw,
2011-01-20, 10:34
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xeno6696,
2011-01-21, 14:01
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dhw,
2011-01-22, 10:32
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework - David Turell, 2011-01-22, 15:29
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xeno6696,
2011-01-22, 18:11
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dhw,
2011-01-22, 22:41
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xeno6696,
2011-01-23, 07:00
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) - David Turell, 2011-01-23, 14:58
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dhw,
2011-01-23, 19:17
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xeno6696,
2011-01-23, 23:39
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dhw,
2011-01-24, 20:02
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dhw,
2011-01-24, 20:07
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David Turell,
2011-01-25, 01:40
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dhw,
2011-01-25, 09:24
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xeno6696,
2011-01-26, 11:40
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dhw,
2011-01-26, 22:53
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xeno6696,
2011-01-27, 04:10
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dhw,
2011-01-28, 12:21
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) - xeno6696, 2011-01-31, 01:17
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dhw,
2011-01-28, 12:21
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xeno6696,
2011-01-27, 04:10
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dhw,
2011-01-26, 22:53
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xeno6696,
2011-01-26, 11:40
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xeno6696,
2011-01-26, 03:16
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David Turell,
2011-01-26, 06:24
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dhw,
2011-01-26, 13:10
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) - xeno6696, 2011-01-26, 13:24
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dhw,
2011-01-26, 13:10
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David Turell,
2011-01-26, 06:24
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dhw,
2011-01-25, 09:24
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xeno6696,
2011-01-31, 01:32
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dhw,
2011-01-31, 11:22
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) - David Turell, 2011-01-31, 14:39
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) -
xeno6696,
2011-02-01, 03:28
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dhw,
2011-02-01, 20:05
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xeno6696,
2011-02-03, 02:44
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - David Turell, 2011-02-03, 05:41
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dhw,
2011-02-04, 12:48
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xeno6696,
2011-02-06, 15:58
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dhw,
2011-02-07, 13:13
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xeno6696,
2011-03-02, 21:33
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - David Turell, 2011-03-02, 23:32
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dhw,
2011-03-03, 19:13
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dhw,
2011-03-04, 14:08
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xeno6696,
2011-03-04, 19:33
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dhw,
2011-03-05, 13:59
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xeno6696,
2011-03-05, 19:36
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David Turell,
2011-03-05, 22:08
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xeno6696,
2011-03-05, 22:25
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David Turell,
2011-03-05, 22:34
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xeno6696,
2011-03-06, 16:02
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - David Turell, 2011-03-06, 16:45
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dhw,
2011-03-06, 20:22
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xeno6696,
2011-03-06, 22:08
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David Turell,
2011-03-06, 23:29
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 03:27
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David Turell,
2011-03-07, 14:42
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 15:23
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) -
David Turell,
2011-03-07, 15:59
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 16:54
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) -
David Turell,
2011-03-08, 01:42
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - xeno6696, 2011-03-08, 02:19
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David Turell,
2011-03-08, 01:42
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 16:54
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) -
David Turell,
2011-03-07, 15:59
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 15:23
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David Turell,
2011-03-07, 14:42
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 03:27
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dhw,
2011-03-07, 12:34
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - xeno6696, 2011-03-07, 13:17
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 13:43
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dhw,
2011-03-08, 14:56
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - dhw, 2011-03-08, 15:06
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dhw,
2011-03-08, 14:56
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David Turell,
2011-03-06, 23:29
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xeno6696,
2011-03-06, 22:08
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xeno6696,
2011-03-06, 16:02
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David Turell,
2011-03-05, 22:34
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xeno6696,
2011-03-05, 22:25
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - dhw, 2011-03-06, 16:26
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David Turell,
2011-03-05, 22:08
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - xeno6696, 2011-05-20, 23:18
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xeno6696,
2011-03-05, 19:36
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dhw,
2011-03-05, 13:59
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xeno6696,
2011-03-04, 19:33
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dhw,
2011-03-04, 14:08
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) -
xeno6696,
2011-03-02, 21:33
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dhw,
2011-02-07, 13:13
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) -
xeno6696,
2011-02-06, 15:58
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) -
xeno6696,
2011-02-03, 02:44
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) -
dhw,
2011-02-01, 20:05
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) -
dhw,
2011-01-31, 11:22
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) -
David Turell,
2011-01-25, 01:40
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) -
dhw,
2011-01-24, 20:07
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) -
dhw,
2011-01-24, 20:02
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) -
xeno6696,
2011-01-23, 23:39
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xeno6696,
2011-01-23, 07:00
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dhw,
2011-01-22, 22:41
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dhw,
2011-01-22, 10:32
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David Turell,
2011-01-19, 14:49
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dhw,
2011-01-19, 13:07
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xeno6696,
2011-01-19, 03:22
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dhw,
2011-01-18, 14:00
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xeno6696,
2011-01-18, 01:16
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dhw,
2011-01-15, 12:51
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xeno6696,
2011-01-13, 22:32
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-14, 22:33
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework - David Turell, 2011-01-15, 01:24
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xeno6696,
2011-01-15, 03:23
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-15, 07:59
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xeno6696,
2011-01-15, 19:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-16, 18:11
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xeno6696,
2011-01-17, 04:32
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dhw,
2011-01-17, 11:04
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework - xeno6696, 2011-01-19, 03:24
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-17, 16:01
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xeno6696,
2011-01-18, 00:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-19, 16:13
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework - dhw, 2011-01-19, 17:58
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-19, 16:13
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xeno6696,
2011-01-18, 00:35
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dhw,
2011-01-17, 11:04
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework -
xeno6696,
2011-01-17, 04:32
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-16, 18:11
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xeno6696,
2011-01-15, 19:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-15, 07:59