Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) (Humans)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Sunday, January 23, 2011, 23:39 (5052 days ago) @ dhw

dhw,
> David has come up with an alternative: "insistence that certain unsubstantiated phenomena are true." I like it, but "insistence" bothers me: it certainly fits some forms (Bill and his demons, perhaps; the dogmatism of some politicians, some religious folk, some scientists), but it doesn't describe the [i]gentle dhw's belief that evolution happened, that humans are born with certain innate characteristics, that animals are sentient.[/i] (I would not call any of these "faith" either.) Nor would I call these beliefs of mine phenomena. I wonder why neither of you is prepared to accept that faith is a form of belief containing information thought to be true by some and not by others, as this seems to be your only objection to my proposal. Would you at least agree to accepting it temporarily, so that we can move on?-If we want a simplified version of belief, how about this:-Acceptance of a claim. -This definition will obviate our normal semantics and connotations of the word, and encompasses categories that we'll move to.

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