Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Humans)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Thursday, January 20, 2011, 12:41 (4864 days ago) @ David Turell

I will have to say that knowledge depends on human agreement (see my definition), whereas truth exists independently of people and cannot be known. On this level, knowledge is the closest we as humans can come to truth, but it is not truth.
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> In math there are truths. Einstein noted that math is extraordinary in the way it can describe realilty (paraphrase). Here is a Christian's view of this 'truth', which he ascribed to the mind of God:
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> http://david.dw-perspective.org.uk/da/index.php/writings/creation-and-mathematics/-Inte... article! Not surprising, but he takes the minority view when he calls mathematics "discovery." The writings of Quine and Godel taken with the overall destruction of platonic idealism by the observation that our universe is not 3-dimensional, with the writings of Wittgenstein-pretty conclusively demonstrate that Mathematics is at base--only a language.-And to quote myself: "Should I be suprised that the world's most precise language describes the world accurately?"-There are plenty of mathematical dicoveries that have no bearing on reality. This guy sounds like an idealist.

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