Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) (Humans)
I understand your explanation, but where I am stuck is "First Cause" I know we do not see reality as it really is, but everything I know has a cause. > > The Buddhist answer is that distinctions between cause and effect are delusion; There is an infinite network of causes and effects. > > The distinction between cause and effect (in Buddhism) is that they are perspective-based things to begin with. A cause is a cause when viewed as a cause but can also be viewed as an effect of something else. The only way to understand what you're studying is to understand it as a unity of cause and effect. > > This teaching causes alot of heartburn and is a big reason why Westerner's "don't get" Buddhism at all. But when you contemplate the real nature of things, all things are unity--all things are part of the same singularity.-Yes, and the only thing we do not know is the cause of the first singularity that caused this universe. > > The question of "first cause" is false. There simply "is". God told Moses "I AM." Consider that.-I know, "I am who I am". I've considered it. God is a first cause. Everything else thereafter 'is'. I don't see that Ed Feser is wrong. > > Reality supersedes all questions of cause and effect--an observer is required to be able to differentiate between them, but the differentiation is due primarily to linguistic relativism...-All reality is cause and effect. Even quantum uncertainty works as averages of all particle movements and states.
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xeno6696,
2011-01-12, 02:16
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dhw,
2011-01-12, 20:27
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xeno6696,
2011-01-13, 22:32
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dhw,
2011-01-15, 12:51
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xeno6696,
2011-01-18, 01:16
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dhw,
2011-01-18, 14:00
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xeno6696,
2011-01-19, 03:22
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dhw,
2011-01-19, 13:07
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David Turell,
2011-01-19, 14:49
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dhw,
2011-01-20, 10:34
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:04
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:12
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:12
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:04
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xeno6696,
2011-01-20, 12:46
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:18
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xeno6696,
2011-01-20, 17:11
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 17:44
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 17:44
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xeno6696,
2011-01-20, 17:11
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David Turell,
2011-01-20, 14:18
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dhw,
2011-01-20, 10:34
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xeno6696,
2011-01-21, 14:01
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dhw,
2011-01-22, 10:32
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework - David Turell, 2011-01-22, 15:29
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xeno6696,
2011-01-22, 18:11
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dhw,
2011-01-22, 22:41
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xeno6696,
2011-01-23, 07:00
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dhw,
2011-01-23, 19:17
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xeno6696,
2011-01-23, 23:39
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dhw,
2011-01-24, 20:02
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dhw,
2011-01-24, 20:07
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David Turell,
2011-01-25, 01:40
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dhw,
2011-01-25, 09:24
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xeno6696,
2011-01-26, 11:40
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dhw,
2011-01-26, 22:53
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xeno6696,
2011-01-27, 04:10
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dhw,
2011-01-28, 12:21
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) - xeno6696, 2011-01-31, 01:17
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dhw,
2011-01-28, 12:21
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xeno6696,
2011-01-27, 04:10
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dhw,
2011-01-26, 22:53
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xeno6696,
2011-01-26, 11:40
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xeno6696,
2011-01-26, 03:16
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David Turell,
2011-01-26, 06:24
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dhw,
2011-01-26, 13:10
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) - xeno6696, 2011-01-26, 13:24
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dhw,
2011-01-26, 13:10
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David Turell,
2011-01-26, 06:24
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dhw,
2011-01-25, 09:24
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xeno6696,
2011-01-31, 01:32
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dhw,
2011-01-31, 11:22
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Belief) - David Turell, 2011-01-31, 14:39
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xeno6696,
2011-02-01, 03:28
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dhw,
2011-02-01, 20:05
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xeno6696,
2011-02-03, 02:44
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - David Turell, 2011-02-03, 05:41
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dhw,
2011-02-04, 12:48
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xeno6696,
2011-02-06, 15:58
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dhw,
2011-02-07, 13:13
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xeno6696,
2011-03-02, 21:33
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - David Turell, 2011-03-02, 23:32
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dhw,
2011-03-03, 19:13
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dhw,
2011-03-04, 14:08
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xeno6696,
2011-03-04, 19:33
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dhw,
2011-03-05, 13:59
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xeno6696,
2011-03-05, 19:36
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David Turell,
2011-03-05, 22:08
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xeno6696,
2011-03-05, 22:25
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David Turell,
2011-03-05, 22:34
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xeno6696,
2011-03-06, 16:02
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - David Turell, 2011-03-06, 16:45
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dhw,
2011-03-06, 20:22
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xeno6696,
2011-03-06, 22:08
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David Turell,
2011-03-06, 23:29
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 03:27
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David Turell,
2011-03-07, 14:42
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 15:23
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David Turell,
2011-03-07, 15:59
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 16:54
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David Turell,
2011-03-08, 01:42
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David Turell,
2011-03-08, 01:42
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 16:54
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David Turell,
2011-03-07, 15:59
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 15:23
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David Turell,
2011-03-07, 14:42
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 03:27
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dhw,
2011-03-07, 12:34
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xeno6696,
2011-03-07, 13:43
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dhw,
2011-03-08, 14:56
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dhw,
2011-03-08, 14:56
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David Turell,
2011-03-06, 23:29
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xeno6696,
2011-03-06, 22:08
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xeno6696,
2011-03-06, 16:02
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David Turell,
2011-03-05, 22:34
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xeno6696,
2011-03-05, 22:25
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework (Order of Rank?) - dhw, 2011-03-06, 16:26
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David Turell,
2011-03-05, 22:08
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xeno6696,
2011-03-05, 19:36
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dhw,
2011-03-05, 13:59
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xeno6696,
2011-03-04, 19:33
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dhw,
2011-03-04, 14:08
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xeno6696,
2011-03-02, 21:33
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dhw,
2011-02-07, 13:13
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xeno6696,
2011-02-06, 15:58
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xeno6696,
2011-02-03, 02:44
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dhw,
2011-02-01, 20:05
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dhw,
2011-01-31, 11:22
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David Turell,
2011-01-25, 01:40
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dhw,
2011-01-24, 20:07
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dhw,
2011-01-24, 20:02
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xeno6696,
2011-01-23, 23:39
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xeno6696,
2011-01-23, 07:00
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dhw,
2011-01-22, 22:41
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dhw,
2011-01-22, 10:32
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David Turell,
2011-01-19, 14:49
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dhw,
2011-01-19, 13:07
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xeno6696,
2011-01-19, 03:22
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dhw,
2011-01-18, 14:00
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xeno6696,
2011-01-18, 01:16
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dhw,
2011-01-15, 12:51
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xeno6696,
2011-01-13, 22:32
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-14, 22:33
- Re: dhw--Epistemological Framework - David Turell, 2011-01-15, 01:24
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xeno6696,
2011-01-15, 03:23
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-15, 07:59
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xeno6696,
2011-01-15, 19:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-16, 18:11
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xeno6696,
2011-01-17, 04:32
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dhw,
2011-01-17, 11:04
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-17, 16:01
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xeno6696,
2011-01-18, 00:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-19, 16:13
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-19, 16:13
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xeno6696,
2011-01-18, 00:35
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dhw,
2011-01-17, 11:04
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xeno6696,
2011-01-17, 04:32
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-16, 18:11
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xeno6696,
2011-01-15, 19:22
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-15, 07:59