Genome complexity: mechanism stopped evolving (Introduction)

by BBella , Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 00:12 (3113 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Next, energy and matter are interchangeable. God's conscious energy just transformed some of itself into the matter of the universe. 
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> > dhw: The “interchangeability” of energy and matter presents a problem here. It fits in with the hypothesis that first cause is an unconscious process of energy and matter eternally transmuting themselves into each other, with matter somehow - the great improbability - becoming aware of the changes. (Awareness is meaningless unless there is something to be aware of.)
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>[david] Disagree. God as pure energy can be aware of Himself. Why He cannot create matter (which will be unconscious) is not reasonable. Of course, if God has all the attributes assigned to Him, He can create matter from some of His energy.-If there were such a thing as a beginning (and I doubt that), and in that beginning was ONLY conscious mind (God), then every thing made was/is created from that very fabric of that first conscious mind (God). Which would mean, All that now IS, is made up of the fabric of that conscious mind (God). It is illogical and VERY difficult to believe that consciousness can be taken out of itself to create the unconscious. And the bigger question, even if possible, would be why? Instead of making creation into the unconscious dead, why not make it into (or even better - become) an ongoing, ever changing event that never ceases to be - which is what consciousness is? -So, if in fact, it were true, that in the beginning, conscious mind was alone and all that was, then this would also have to be true and makes more sense to me; paraphrasing Rumi: consciousness now sleeps in the rocks, awakens in the fish and dances in man. -In other words: All that IS, vibrates at differing quantum speeds, creating all that we see and don't see, and IS all that IS.