Genome complexity: mechanism stopped evolving (Introduction)

by dhw, Friday, May 13, 2016, 12:37 (3117 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: Why is faith an “obvious requirement”? Are you now saying that instead of having a “relationship” with humans, he just created them to see whether they would believe in him or not? Since you love asking “why” when we discuss evolution, perhaps you will tell us why God would want to play such a game.-DAVID: We really don't know why He stays concealed. Einhorn's book, A Concealed God, and Schroeder's book, The Hidden Face of God, both discuss it but they don't give firm answers. The leap is required, but I know you won't take it.-I wonder if they discuss the possibility that the concealment is due to his not actually being there. You still haven't told us why YOU think faith is an “obvious requirement”. Faith in what? That he is there? That's the game I've referred to above. Faith in what else? You always warn us against giving God attributes and intentions (other than producing humans), so it can't be his love, or his plans to give us a bright future after death. A God who is hidden and has no attributes or intentions might just as well not be there, so again, why is faith an “obvious requirement”? Faith in what, and requirement for what?-adhw: The universe and Earth are so shrouded in mystery, and all proposed solutions are so riddled with uncertainties, that it takes a great deal of faith to choose one and dismiss the rest.
DAVID: Exactly!-So faith is required if one is to dismiss all other solutions. Therefore I say unto you and unto Dawkins and unto all who are prepared to listen: “Oh ye of much faith, ye are all leaping in the dark. So acknowledge that you may be wrong and others may be right, and therefore exchange your views with modest humility and with tolerance. Just like us agnostics.”