Innovation; Just for dhw (Introduction)
We share the concept of a built-in drive for improvement and complexity, but what you call ”God-given information supplied at the origin of life” is what I have suggested is AUTONOMOUS INTELLIGENCE, whereas you have suggested that it is divine preprogramming or personal intervention.- You have never explained how 'autonomous intelligence' develops, if my memory is correct. As life began from inorganic matter, you want intelligence to arise also? > > DAVID: And what is that superior intelligence you are postulating? > > dhw: The intelligence to reinvent themselves internally (innovations) and to invent externally (weird lifestyles and certain natural wonders) so that they can adapt to or exploit environmental conditions. ...You know all this, because you quite rightly emphasize that such intelligence could hardly be the product of chance, but you refuse to contemplate the possibility that your God might have created it! For you, every single act of cellular intelligence must have been preprogrammed (or personally “guided”) by your God, as in this response: > > DAVID: Simple God programmed in the kind of information/instructions that handle it. > > dhw: A simple 3.8-billion-year-old programme inserted into the first cells to organize the history of evolution from bacteria to humans? Is that really simpler than a single invention that can diversify?-I guess you cannot accept God because you are incredulous at what I believe He can do. Is that your hang-up?
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