Innovation (Introduction)

by David Turell , Monday, May 06, 2013, 19:07 (4220 days ago) @ dhw


>dhw: In my panpsychist scenario, innovation is caused by intelligent energy within the genome responding to changes in the environment. How does that differ from "phenotype guidance in embryo formation"?-
If you put your intelligent energy into the genome the we are in agreement.-> dhw: And are you telling us that Sheldrake's species consciousness implies your own particular "universal consciousness" (i.e. God)? N.B. Sheldrake also applies his principle to inorganic matter, though "the whole concept of fields in general is a very difficult thing to grasp".-See my Fred Hoyle entry on carbon and oxygen. Of course God reaches into inorganic to some degree to prepare for life in the evolution of the universe. Later oxygen and carbon combine to make organic.-> dhw: My version of panpsychism certainly has consciousness "affecting cells", but not "reaching into cells": the consciousness is already within cells (or in the genome which is within cells). Whereas on the contrary, your own brand of "intelligent energy", i.e. God, has to reach into cells whenever he starts dabbling!-Only for course corrections.
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> dhw: [...] intelligent energy is the force within materials that enables organisms to innovate. Your God is first-cause energy which has been intelligent for ever and ever, so define him and it! The concept I'm proposing also implies structure, but instead of this being imposed from outside by a single inventor, it is created from within.-Yes God is OUTside, but He created the INside to adapt all by itself. We don't need your concept, because it did not self-start. God started everything. Unless you'd like to imply that your concept began itself, somehow?-> 
> dhw: If internal "intelligent energy" functions by working from within the genome, that's fine with me. You complained that my concept lacked structure, and I have explained that instead of structure being imposed from outside by your one-and-only Creator, it is created by intelligent energy within. A structure is a structure is a structure.-Explain how it started all by itelf, from what?