Cell response to electric field (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, April 14, 2013, 14:52 (4242 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Your theistic theory is fine up to the point that the nebulous 'intelligent energy' appears. I suggest you fund a study to find this ghost of yours. [The panpsychist hypothesis is not believable] because it is not based on anything we know about the function of cells. I prefer to start theorizing from what we know about life.
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> dhw: A very fair comment. But of course, despite your preferences, it applies to all your own ideas about the origin of life, the mechanisms for evolution, consciousness, the 'soul', 'God'. For anyone who is sceptical of pure materialism, the only way out is a "ghost" of some kind, and it will be as nebulous as my hypothesis and yours.-Yours is a fair comment also. "We do not know" and perhaps "cannot know" covers much of our discussion. My only objection to your suppositions is I have tried to start theorizing from what we actually know about the electro-chemical physiology of living matter and its controlling information, and you have not. The huge mysteries have been clearly defined by Nagel, Talbott, etc. But they flounder and offer no 'third way' as I have described my definition of their desire. I admire you willingness to jump into the gap with your third way. If intelligent energy really existed, you have a reasonable solution. So far there is no evidence of intelligent energy. Raw quantum mechanics demonstrates 'spookiness at a distance', but automatic controls between daughter particles is not intelligence. On the other hand, conscious energy will have a degree of intelligence, an energy IQ.-Surely you will see where this is taking us. You and I are the same in thought. My conscious energy (God) which pervades everything and your intelligent energy are really one and the same! Your panpsychism solves the problem as you have proclaimed. It is obvious your panpsychism is really God by another name.