Innovation (Introduction)

by David Turell , Thursday, May 16, 2013, 18:10 (4210 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Because species appear de novo, genetics provides adaptation but NOT speciation.
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> dhw:The implications of this remark are so enormous that I'd like to tackle it on its own, and will reply to the rest of your post separately.
> If innovations are preprogrammed, the programme must be within the genome. Now, however, you are saying that genetics only provides adaptation (which would normally preserve the status quo) and NOT speciation! In that case, ALL innovations must be the result of God dabbling. In other words, you now appear to be arguing for separate creation of species (Creationism), which is the direct antithesis of evolution!-I can only look at the record we see. We do not know how speciation occurs. We just know that it is abrupt and very new complete organisms appear. How much control the genome, itself, has in specialtion is simply a very open question. Can the genome by itself produce a species? No proof exists yet if we exclude Darwin's gradualism, and it is excluded in our discussions. I have repeatedly said I don't know the mix between pre-programming and dabbling. I have to assume that pre-programming included a drive to complexity when none is really needed as bacteria have proven. We cannot know how God dabbles, directly or indirectly, but evolution doesn't seem to be all preprogramming or the genome would show us some evidence of that, and it doesn't in the research so far. I can go no further. I have a strong belief that theistic evolution occurred. I cannot believe in a chance process. it is beyond all odds.