Junk DNA: goodbye!: Review article (Introduction)

by dhw, Saturday, March 21, 2015, 19:12 (3323 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

dhw: Here are the real alternatives: either the story of life began from the top with an undesigned supercolossal intelligence that always knew everything, or it began from the bottom with the tiniest intelligence that evolved into all the intelligence we now know. How the supercolossal intelligence came to be so intelligent you cannot tell me. How the tiniest intelligence came to be intelligent I cannot tell you. Both choices demand a leap of faith - or of course no leap at all. 
DAVID: I don't believe ‘tiny intelligences' can grow themselves. A powerful existing intelligence is the only choice that makes sense to me.-So you believe a supercolossal intelligence can grow itself.-TONY: Why does God have to start out as knowing everything? Or more to the point, if all of this did not exist until it was designed and created, what "everything" was there for him to know?
David: Now I am confused. Didn't God know what he was going to create, and didn't He know how to do it?
TONY: Did he have to know that from the instant that he sprang into existence? You and DHW both seem to treat him like he has to be Houdini, springing into existence (or always existing) already having all the answers, and completely disregarding the possibility that maybe he didn't do any creating for a REALLY long time. If WE, as imperfect as we are, understand that sitting down and working out a plan BEFORE you start production of something is a good idea, how much more so would God understand that. Do you REALLY look at creation and think, "Eh, he must have made it up as he went along"?-I don't treat him like that at all. I don't even know if he exists! And I have repeatedly challenged David's idea that God, if he exists, could know it all in advance. I could actually imagine him making a lot of it up as he goes along (or experimenting) - after all, he may have had eternity to mess around with different ideas and even with different universes. And of course if HE had eternity, unconscious first cause energy would also have had eternity to produce whatever unconscious first cause energy might produce, including perhaps different universes. Who knows? But I'd best leave the two of you to fight over what God might have known and not known, since you are a lot closer to him than I am.