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by dhw, Tuesday, March 17, 2015, 17:07 (3327 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Remember I don't know how God guided evolution, and I've agreed an onboard IM may really exist in most species. Where you and I disagree is whether it is autonomous vs. semi-autonomous, and I favor semi, so God stays in control. He is not fully in control with semi-autonomous.-dhw: I remain surprised at your sudden willingness to abandon evolution altogether and accept the possibility that God personally created each species. You now appear to be torn between four (not necessarily mutually exclusive) options: 1) God preprogrammed evolution; 2) God dabbled in the evolutionary process; 3) God gave organisms an inventive mechanism with which to drive evol- while he drove -ution; 4) evolution never happened, and God did it all (= Creationism). I must say I prefer the clear version in your book, in which the astonishingly versatile mechanisms enable organisms to adapt and invent. Ah, the good old days!-David: For some reason you have interpreted my position into four parts. You are a splitter and I'm not. Basically as stated over and over, I believe God used evolution to produce humans. How He did it is alluded to in my comment before yours above. I did mistype my very last comment. It should read "he is not fully in control with an autonomous IM, and in more control with semi-autonomous.-Autonomous v semi-autonomous is quite a recent “split” in our discussion. Earlier you said your dilemma lay between preprogramming and dabbling. No problem if you've given up on the preprogramming hypothesis, which even stretched so far as to include the weaverbird's nest and the monarch's lifestyle, and always seemed to me to be way, way over the top. 
 
DAVID (15 March): That is why my thought about evolution is that God guided it. Did He personally create each species or just guided a process He set in motion? I don't know. But it is one or the other.-So now it would seem that your dilemma lies between a semi-autonomous inventive mechanism by which God semi-guided evolution, and the personal creation of each species (Creationism). At least it's being narrowed down.