Junk DNA: goodbye!: Review article (Introduction)

by David Turell , Tuesday, March 17, 2015, 00:21 (3540 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: Tony has come up with another admirable list of designer arguments, which he summarizes: “It isn't just that the universe is fine tuned for life, it is fine tuned for the universe as we know it to even exist.” This is none other than the nebulous anthropic principle, with which both theists and atheists try to justify their beliefs: if the universe (and life) was not as it is, it would either not exist or it would not be as it is.-
I would remind you: John Leslie in his book Universes uses fine tuning to conclude: (paraphrased) "either there is a God and/or a multiverse". The anthropic principal, of which I want no part and never would use, is circular reasoning. We are here because of fine tuning and if we were not here there would be no fine tuning. It is philosophic garbage invented as usual by a cosmology scientist. It is only if fine tuning is used as a teleological argument that theists and Leslie go into action.-> 
> dhw: I have accepted first cause..... However, belief in God is not the default position. If there is no evidence for something, why should we believe in it? As David says of the infinite universe and the multiverse: "Two unprovable conjectures are just that, nothings." I'm afraid the same applies to the God conjecture.
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> I still respect and admire you both for your Pascalian athleticism, but I'd respect and admire you even more if you would acknowledge just what a mighty leap is required!-I understand the leap.