The Horrors of Evolution (Evolution)
All hinges on the belief in a personal God. If a personal God exists, then divine revelation is perfectly reasonable Without divine revelation, the Bible is just a very old book. The divinity of the Bible is axiomatic for Christians. If one accepts the inerrancy of the Bible, then the rest becomes mere debate over translation, meaning and emphasis. The problem I have with Christianity is the line of logic. God created man with a sinful nature, tempted him with the tree of knowledge, and, when he failed, condemned him and all his descendents to Hell for eternity. Even though he is all powerful, his all justness will not allow him to forgive man. So, six thousand years later, he sends his son (who is really himself) to be executed by the Romans so that, if we asked in his son's name, he could now forgive us. This leaves the people who lived in the six thousand years prior and all who don't ask for forgiveness correctly, either because they haven't heard or were born into the wrong religion, in the fire. It has been said to me that God's greatest gift to man was free will, to which I respond "It is a gift that keeps on giving. It gives the opportunity to burn in Hell for eternity." An eternity of torment seems unjust and disproportionate. To me, the line of logic is just not plausible. Add to this the fact that every generation beginning with Paul expects to be the generation of the rapture, and two thousand years later it still hasn't happened.
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- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-08-07, 14:30
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-08, 02:36
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-08-08, 11:14
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-08, 16:26
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-08-10, 08:09
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-08-10, 15:48
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-10, 19:09
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-08-10, 22:33
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-08-11, 01:10
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-11, 02:36
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-08-11, 18:15
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-12, 02:29
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-08-12, 10:54
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-12, 15:57
- The Horrors of Evolution - Carl, 2008-08-12, 23:17
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-12, 15:57
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-08-12, 10:54
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-12, 02:29
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-08-11, 18:15
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-11, 02:36
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-08-11, 01:10
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-08-10, 22:33
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-10, 19:09
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-08-10, 15:48
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-08-10, 08:09
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-08, 16:26
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-08-08, 11:14
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-08-08, 03:46
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-08-29, 23:07
- The Horrors of Evolution - Carl, 2008-08-30, 03:34
- The Horrors of Evolution - George Jelliss, 2008-08-30, 11:42
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-03, 13:26
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-03, 18:00
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-09-04, 15:39
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-05, 23:23
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-05, 23:36
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-06, 12:16
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-06, 16:54
- The Horrors of Evolution - BBella, 2008-09-06, 18:56
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-09-06, 17:03
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-06, 18:10
- The Horrors of Evolution - Carl, 2008-09-07, 00:41
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-06, 18:10
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-06, 16:54
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-06, 12:16
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-09-06, 04:02
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-06, 23:15
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-07, 01:06
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-09-07, 02:01
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-07, 22:59
- The Horrors of Evolution - Carl, 2008-09-08, 02:35
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-16, 21:43
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-16, 23:10
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-09-17, 12:30
- The Horrors of Evolution - David Turell, 2008-09-17, 17:19
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-17, 17:37
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-18, 12:04
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-18, 17:55
- The Truth of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-18, 23:35
- The Truth of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-19, 09:50
- The Truth of Evolution - David Turell, 2008-09-19, 17:12
- The Truth of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-19, 09:50
- The Truth of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-18, 23:35
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-18, 17:55
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-18, 12:04
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-09-17, 12:30
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-16, 23:10
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-07, 22:59
- The Horrors of Evolution - David Turell, 2008-09-07, 02:53
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-09-07, 02:01
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-07, 08:00
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-07, 16:54
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-09, 07:59
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh04,
2008-09-09, 13:17
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh04,
2008-09-09, 15:52
- The Horrors of Evolution - George Jelliss, 2008-09-09, 16:03
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh04,
2008-09-09, 16:08
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh04,
2008-09-09, 17:51
- The Horrors of Evolution - David Turell, 2008-09-10, 03:09
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh04,
2008-09-09, 17:51
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-10, 08:51
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh04,
2008-09-10, 11:58
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-11, 13:13
- The Horrors of Evolution - David Turell, 2008-09-11, 14:47
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-11, 19:24
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-12, 13:51
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-09-12, 15:15
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-13, 11:32
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-13, 16:51
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-13, 17:17
- The Horrors of Evolution - David Turell, 2008-09-13, 18:27
- The Horrors of Evolution -
George Jelliss,
2008-09-13, 17:17
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-13, 16:51
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-13, 11:32
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-09-12, 15:15
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-12, 13:51
- The Horrors of Evolution - David Turell, 2008-09-11, 17:05
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-11, 13:13
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh04,
2008-09-10, 11:58
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh04,
2008-09-09, 15:52
- The Horrors of Evolution - David Turell, 2008-09-09, 17:03
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh04,
2008-09-09, 13:17
- The Horrors of Evolution -
dhw,
2008-09-09, 07:59
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-07, 16:54
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-07, 01:06
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-06, 23:15
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-05, 23:36
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-09-05, 23:23
- The Horrors of Evolution -
Carl,
2008-09-04, 15:39
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-09-03, 18:00
- The Horrors of Evolution -
edinburgh4,
2008-08-29, 23:07
- The Horrors of Evolution -
David Turell,
2008-08-08, 02:36