The Horrors of Evolution (Evolution)

by George Jelliss ⌂ @, Crewe, Monday, August 11, 2008, 01:10 (5747 days ago) @ Carl

dhw wrote: "And although I'm not stating that God is impersonal, but merely 
that it is a distinct possibility based on the evidence available to 
us, I stand by my assertion that if he is indeed impersonal, then he 
is irrelevant to our lives." - I wonder if this provides a way of reconciling atheistic and theistic ideas? If "god" is the "logos", that is the abstract mathematical and logical principles that are necessarily true of the universe, or of any universes, then perhaps we could all believe in this, except that it is not a "person", but it does meet Scruton's desire for the "transcendental". - And it may be relevant to our lives, in that we, and the evolution of consciousness, might be seen as a logical necessity. However, I have tried to argue this case for "positive humanism" at the Secular Society but was comprehensively voted down, so perhaps it pleases only me. - Scruton's remarks that the "evangelical atheists" are "shouting at their opponents", using "every weapon" and have a weak case "fortified by noise", seems to me to be purely in his own fancy. I find Dawkins, Dennett and Co as polite and quietly spoken a group as you could hope to meet.


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