Ontological Arguments (Humans)
> > To me, there 'has' to be an interface if we're going to cite God as prime cause for physical matter; otherwise we have have an impossibility. > > > > God as energy could simply be an assertion that energy in the universe itself followed a path of development. God's creating will was however limited. > > Why an impossibility? If God existed as energy and from His own energy created the universe as part of Himself, He would be within and withhout the universe in one continuum. And why limited? He went in His creation, as far as He wished.-Because if God IS energy, than we must admit that God is limited by it. If God itself is everything; the singularity until now, then clearly he didn't have the power to do what he want when he wanted. And, as I conjectured in a long-dead thread here, God's ability to influence the world slowly dies over time as energy becomes less and less concentrated. -This is a little more "Process-oriented" than most would like, but it makes sense as what has been observed.
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