Ontological Arguments (Humans)
I am not really sure that it is an interface to god that is needed, though, at least in the Christian belief system that is exactly the role that Christ was supposed to play. (Sorry if I digress to theology for a moment, but it is for good reason)Earlier in the bible though, Adam, Abraham, Moses and others had a direct interface with him. Through the scriptures, there is a definite trend of withdrawal over time, kind of a disconnect with that direct line. At first, any angel could serve the purpose, then, only Christ through faith. I am curious as to how that would gradual disconnect stacks up in other religious texts though. -This thought had also occurred to me a long time ago, and to be honest, has been the one thing that has kept me from ever completely giving up on the existence of a God. I think at the end of the day it comes down to belief and understanding.-To take the last first, understanding that energy and matter are interchangeable and ultimately indestructible. Mankind has learned to change the state of matter and energy by using outside forces. I think we are meant to learn to alter the state of energy and matter using our minds. (Holds his breath and waits for the straight jacket...)-Our brains already manipulate energy to create our personal realities, how much of a stretch is it to think that same ability can not extend to our communal reality? I know things such as this are covered in Buddhism, though I do not know to what extent. But even in Christianity, the message is there. "If you have faith the size of a mustard seed you can move mountains." And Peter was able to walk on water until he lost faith. None of this would be possible with out energy i.e. God's help.- Just one of those late night ideas that has been growing over the last several years.
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xeno6696,
2010-09-25, 20:50
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 21:09
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George Jelliss,
2010-09-25, 22:47
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 23:39
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David Turell,
2010-09-26, 00:25
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xeno6696,
2010-09-26, 17:37
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 02:12
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xeno6696,
2010-09-27, 04:05
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xeno6696,
2010-09-27, 04:05
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 02:12
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xeno6696,
2010-09-26, 17:37
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David Turell,
2010-09-26, 00:25
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 23:39
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dhw,
2010-09-26, 22:18
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 02:41
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xeno6696,
2010-09-27, 04:01
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 05:12
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xeno6696,
2010-09-27, 22:06
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 00:51
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xeno6696,
2010-09-28, 01:47
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-28, 06:49
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xeno6696,
2010-09-28, 11:40
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 15:30
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 17:41
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-28, 18:15
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 20:19
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xeno6696,
2010-09-28, 23:53
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David Turell,
2010-09-29, 00:08
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-29, 06:51
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 23:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-30, 04:24
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Balance_Maintained,
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 23:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-29, 06:51
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David Turell,
2010-09-29, 00:08
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 20:19
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xeno6696,
2010-09-28, 23:30
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 23:58
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 00:09
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David Turell,
2010-09-29, 00:26
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 01:16
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David Turell,
2010-09-29, 01:26
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 02:04
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David Turell,
2010-09-29, 05:03
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 22:57
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David Turell,
2010-09-29, 22:59
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 23:37
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 23:37
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David Turell,
2010-09-29, 22:59
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 22:57
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David Turell,
2010-09-29, 05:03
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 02:04
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David Turell,
2010-09-29, 01:26
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 01:16
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David Turell,
2010-09-29, 00:26
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 00:09
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 23:58
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-28, 18:15
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 15:30
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 15:24
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xeno6696,
2010-09-28, 11:40
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-28, 06:49
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xeno6696,
2010-09-28, 01:47
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 00:51
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xeno6696,
2010-09-27, 22:06
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 05:12
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xeno6696,
2010-09-27, 04:01
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xeno6696,
2010-09-27, 04:21
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 05:21
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dhw,
2010-09-27, 12:22
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xeno6696,
2010-09-28, 02:24
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dhw,
2010-09-29, 14:00
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dhw,
2010-09-29, 14:00
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xeno6696,
2010-09-28, 02:24
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 05:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 21:09