Ontological Arguments (Humans)

by David Turell , Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 00:51 (4979 days ago) @ xeno6696


> Here is the challenge to the theists:
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> Any valid theistic foundation of the universe must account for how something that is claimed to be "unknowable" in the physical world can change and/or alter the physical world. This question can be alternately phrased as "How does the physical universe come into existence by means of mind?"[EDITE
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> If God interfaces with the physical world at all then there will be a way to detect it. -
No there won't. Can you scientifically study your love for your wife (?), and don't tell me MRI with radioactive substances, several times removed. The same thing applies to Wagner, Mozart, Brahms, Bach, etc. The emotions in consciousness are beyond study directly, but they are as real as the brick from Romansh. The point of the book, 'A Concealed God', by Stephan Einhorn, 1998, is there are only two, not mutually exclusive answers: "Either God is a biochemical process in the human brain, the function of which is to protect the intellect from experiencing the world as insecure and meaningless---fellings that could have resulted in the downfall of the human race in an evolutionary perspective---or else there is a God.'-Godel's theorum: we can never prove everything. Much as you believe in the infallable ability of science to study everything, it can't, anymore than we can see outside this universe.