Ontological Arguments (Humans)
> > The best ontologic argument is that last paragraph! > > lol, David, this wasn't an ontological argument at all! He was informing me that experience itself is something that cannot be encapsulated into language!-I know that, but it is still the best agument for God. > > I fear I wasn't specific enough when asking why Materialism was wrong; I've long known that science isn't suited for exactly the kinds of things that dhw talked about here, but my question is driving at epistemology and why materialism is wrong in those terms, and not in the terms that are technically "beyond" epistemology.-That is the exact problem. Trying to get at God removes materialism from the stage. Science cannot handle consciouness with those feelings it engenders as discussed by dhw.
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xeno6696,
2010-09-25, 20:50
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 21:09
- Ontological Arguments - xeno6696, 2010-09-25, 21:30
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George Jelliss,
2010-09-25, 22:47
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 23:39
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David Turell,
2010-09-26, 00:25
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xeno6696,
2010-09-26, 17:37
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 02:12
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xeno6696,
2010-09-27, 04:05
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
2010-09-26, 17:37
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David Turell,
2010-09-26, 00:25
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 23:39
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dhw,
2010-09-26, 22:18
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 02:41
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 05:12
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xeno6696,
2010-09-27, 22:06
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 00:51
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xeno6696,
2010-09-28, 01:47
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-28, 06:49
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 17:41
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-28, 18:15
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 20:19
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xeno6696,
2010-09-28, 23:53
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2010-09-29, 00:08
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-29, 06:51
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xeno6696,
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Balance_Maintained,
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xeno6696,
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Balance_Maintained,
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David Turell,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
2010-09-29, 23:37
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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Balance_Maintained,
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 15:30
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David Turell,
2010-09-28, 15:24
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xeno6696,
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Balance_Maintained,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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xeno6696,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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xeno6696,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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xeno6696,
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