A possible God's possible purpose and nature (The nature of a \'Creator\')
dhw: I have said they are not “mistakes” but are merely examples of free organisms designing their own way of surviving. Bacteria or deviant cells that kill us by feeding on us are no different from all the other life forms that survive by killing. Do you see all carnivores as “mistakes” your all-powerful God didn’t want but couldn’t correct?
DAVID: I'm referring to metabolic errors that can kill, while you remain off that point. God edited to prevent them.
dhw: And in some cases – despite being all-powerful – he failed to do so. The “metabolic errors” were included under “deviant cells”, and I am suggesting that the diseases that kill, like everything else that kills, are the result of the freedom of choice you have acknowledged as being part of your God’s system.
Not freedom of choice, but molecules are free to make mistakes in folding, etc., since they are not tightly controlled in reactions by physical and electrical forces influencing them.
Importance of pathogens
dhw:. If accidents can cause your God to “change course”, then it is illogical to claim that he had planned everything in advance and was always in total control.DAVID: He obviously planned for the great oxygenation event. But some events certainly seem at random like the course of each asteroid now flying around the solar system.
dhw: You can pick and choose as much as you like, but you cannot dispute the logic of my statement.
I agree, God probably allowed chance events, and used them to continue with His plans.
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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2021-06-21, 09:06
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dhw,
2021-06-20, 09:37
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2021-06-14, 14:43
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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