A possible God's possible purpose and nature (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by David Turell @, Thursday, July 15, 2021, 18:03 (93 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I have answered your objections by saying God designed everything before humans appeared and humans. Your complaint is against His designing.

dhw: There is no end to your dodging. First you switch to God’s existence, and now you repeat ONE part of your theory (God designed every life form) and leave out the other: if humans plus lunch were his only purpose, why would he have designed all the life forms and lunches that had no connection with humans? It is the illogicality of such combined beliefs that constitute my complaint. You know this, so I don’t know why you keep playing these silly dodging games! [...]

You know my theory fully, but you always complain if I leave something out.


DAVID: You simply refuse to accept the obvious. We each think of God totally differently.

dhw: Of course that is obvious, and we question each other’s views. So please tell me why you think experimentation, learning, having new ideas, or creating precisely what one wants to create – all of which provide logical theistic explanations for the history of evolution – should be regarded as weak, wishy-washy and bumbling. The terms have the same meaning, whether you apply them to humans or to God.

Obvious. Your God's actions are the actions of humans, not of a determined purposeful God who knows His goals in advance.

DAVID: What I do know is God is not human in any way, while you constantly apply a humanistic form to His thoughts.

dhw: How can you possibly “know” that? Read your own words: “I am sure we mimic him in many ways…but just how much is unknown.” “In many ways” now becomes “in no way”. You are sure that we have certain traits in common, but you know we don’t.

DAVID: The wrong 'know' is questioned. I recognize your descriptions of God's actions and purposes as quite humanizing. I agree I cannot 'know' God, but only can develop my view of Him as I analyze His works.

dhw: And I recognize YOUR descriptions of God’s actions as quite humanizing, and I recognize your agreement that he and we possibly/probably/definitely have thought patterns and emotions in common. What I cannot recognize is the logic behind your certainty that we mimic him in many ways, but your knowledge that he is not human in any way.

My point is we cannot know if He is human in any way at all. This results in our separate visions of God as totally different.


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