Convoluted human evolution: a branch is missing (Introduction)

by dhw, Wednesday, August 09, 2017, 09:02 (2664 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: The whale is still under God's guidelines. I've not changed my point of view much as you wish it. God controls evolution.

dhw: I am not asking you to change your point of view. Taking the example of the various pre-whales, I am asking you to clarify what you mean by “guidelines” and what you mean by the “invention” God allows.

DAVID: If you know comparative anatomy a leg and a flipper have analogous parts. The 'guidelines' are design changes required. The 'invention' is the actual change as required in the genome. All requires design planning. Just image remodeling your home. It has to the same process of designing new walls, plumbing wiring, etc.

Thank you for this very encouraging clarification. Let’s put it in more concrete terms, bearing in mind your original statement: “What happened followed my approach of God allowing invention under guidelines.”

Guideline: your God says to the pre-whale: “Go live in the water and redesign thyself accordingly.”
Invention: God allows the pre-whale to engineer (“invent”) its own changes so that it can live more comfortably in the water. Frankly, I don’t see any reason whatsoever why the pre-whale shouldn’t have taken its own decision to go live in the water, especially if environmental conditions made the water a more attractive place to live in, but the important thing here is your acknowledgement that the cell communities of which the organism is made are capable of changing their own structure, or redesigning themselves. That is the whole point of my “intelligent cell” hypothesis: that the cell communities have the ability (possibly God-given, or in your terms "allowed") to make the changes, as opposed to being preprogrammed or dabbled by your God before they even enter the water.