Before the Big Bang? Addendum (Origins)

by dhw, Sunday, August 21, 2016, 11:35 (3014 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: ... Now we have a well understood pattern that led to Higgs, which completed this early pattern.
dhw: I suggest that in both cases it is what we don't know that throws doubt upon the pattern.
DAVID: The current pattern leading to Higgs IS considered complete. -Earlier you said that the current pattern is the Standard Model. If you are referring to another “pattern”, please tell us what it is. Meanwhile, here is another website that disagrees with you:-	www.particleadventure.org/beyond_start.html	-"Beyond the Standard Model 
The Standard Model answers many of the questions about the structure and stability of matter with its six types of quarks, six types of leptons, and four forces. But the Standard Model is not complete (my bold); there are still many unanswered questions. 
Why do we observe matter and almost no antimatter if we believe there is a symmetry between the two in the universe? 
What is this "dark matter" that we can't see that has visible gravitational effects in the cosmos? 
Why can't the Standard Model predict a particle's mass? 
Are quarks and leptons actually fundamental, or made up of even more fundamental particles? -Why are there exactly three generations of quarks and leptons? 
How does gravity fit into all of this?"-	This cern website goes into much more detail, and in the section entitled “So far so good, but…” shows that the Higgs boson does not mark completion.
	
	 The Standard Model | CERN
home.cern/about/physics/standard-model-I can't establish the link, but I'm sure you'll find it. Here are some relevant quotes:-"The Higgs boson, as proposed within the Standard Model, is the simplest manifestation of the Brout-Englert-Higgs mechanism. Other types of Higgs boson are predicted by other theories that go beyond the Standard Model."-"So although the Standard Model accurately describes the phenomena within its domain, it is still incomplete. (My bold) Perhaps it is only a part of a bigger picture that includes new physics hidden deep in the subatomic world or in the dark recesses of the universe. New information from experiments at the LHC will help us to find more of these missing pieces."-Since you have already agreed that your concept of an integrated plan etc. is purely subjective, and you have also agreed that a great deal more work needs to be done, I would suggest that this particular aspect of the discussion is now a dead end.