Before the Big Bang? (Origins)

by dhw, Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 12:20 (3030 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: The particle zoo is made of bosons, fermions, hadrons, quarks, leptons, etc. following quantum rules:[/i]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_zoo
DAVID: No one knows why the particles are the way they are, but their organization makes perfect sense so far.-dhw: I don't see how your list of particles can be said to make a pattern, and even your own comment shows that there is no such thing. An “integrated quantum plan” would require a theory of everything. The above article refers us to another article on the ‘standard model', and the section entitled “Challenges” shows precisely why at present there is no pattern that “makes perfect sense”.-DAVID: It is a sensible pattern. Does it make us understand why the various particles have the values they have? No. But, the researchers have grouped the particles by type. Theory from the patterns led Higgs to predict his boson! The patterns work! It may be incomplete, which is why they are continuing to smash atoms and look at the results.-I don't understand any of the “Challenges”, but I'm sure you will: the model (= pattern) does not explain gravitation; it requires 19 numerical constants whose values are unrelated and arbitrary; the hierarchy problem; it is inconsistent with the emerging ‘Standard Model of cosmology'; it doesn't explain the existence of ultra-high-energy cosmic rays. Sorry, but if there are elements that do not fit into the pattern, I don't see how you can claim that the pattern makes “perfect sense”, let alone that it “strongly suggests” that there is a God.