Before the Big Bang? (Origins)

by David Turell , Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 23:52 (2801 days ago) @ dhw


> DAVID: It is a sensible pattern. Does it make us understand why the various particles have the values they have? No. But, the researchers have grouped the particles by type. Theory from the patterns led Higgs to predict his boson! The patterns work! It may be incomplete, which is why they are continuing to smash atoms and look at the results.
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> dhw: I don't understand any of the “Challenges”, but I'm sure you will: the model (= pattern) does not explain gravitation; it requires 19 numerical constants whose values are unrelated and arbitrary; the hierarchy problem; it is inconsistent with the emerging ‘Standard Model of cosmology'; it doesn't explain the existence of ultra-high-energy cosmic rays. Sorry, but if there are elements that do not fit into the pattern, I don't see how you can claim that the pattern makes “perfect sense”, let alone that it “strongly suggests” that there is a God.-You have not looked closely at what I stated. Simply ae far as we have gone in particle discovery, it all fits a reasonable pattern. But we still don't understand gravity because we have no discoveries to explain it. Cosmic rays are part of 'no discovery' as yet. This is a vacuum of knowledge, not a defect in pattern! As far as we have gone it fits together nicely. I repeat, why did Higgs make his accurate prediction! It fits together as far as it goes. And I am sure a mind set it up.